I'm in the process of reading this book now, so far it's an excellant read.

God designed men to be dangerous, says John Eldredge. Simply look at the dreams and desires written in the heart of every boy: To be a hero, to be a warrior, to live a life of adventure and risk. Sadly, most men abandon those dreams and desires -- aided by a Christianity that feels like nothing more than pressure to be a "nice guy." It is no wonder that many men avoid church, and those who go are often passive and bored to death. In this provocative book, Eldredge gives women a look inside the true heart of a man and gives men permission to be what God designed them to be -- dangerous, passionate, alive, and free.

http://www.booksite.com/texis/scripts/oop/...ble=0&assoc_id=

Regards

Stormy ..it sounds like an interesting read...I will check it out.

I am currently reading "Wicked"....IMHO well worth a gander. New perspective on Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. For those that don’t know the original Wiz of Oz book was written about the populist movement of the late 1800s and the dropping of silver from the monetary standard.

http://www.shopping.com/xMPR-Wicked-Witch-...t~PD-4358574976

And this is why, Stormy, the Christian fundamentalists are popular. They manage to combine scripture's demands for modest simple goodness with the WWF. Jesus goes ten rounds with Satan and wins. Ding ding ding.

If you're not with us, you're against us. ding ding ding!

I agree with your comments but think some denominations carry it too far. They portray God as someone who rides into town, Shane like, and saves us all by blowing the bad guys away. Feeds the militarization of American society.

Part of a backlash against the suppression of the deep masculine in modern society.

Tell me, what does your book have to say about the man of Truth who spray-paints LIES on the glass panels of newspaper dispensers? This man has taken a risk, to fight against wrong, what does your book say? IT SAYS NOTHING. Where is the Gain? Where is the Blood? In short, the "men as fighters" books almost always babble about the fighter women want to screw, that is the bloody murders. What about those who fight for "unpopular" causes without a payoff that can buy Bitch an SUV? Those who struggle for safety standards, fight for the best civic plan, for truth, for the dignity of others? Oh, I'm sure lip service is made. But it means nothing.

Indeed, whoever spraypainted those dispensers is one of the people who shames me. For I have not taken as much risk. I should be shamed.

The current American Church teaches men to be women fearing, not God fearing.
Many of the preachers of todays churches are going to suffer greatly when they die. God does not enjoy being used.

The most common whine I hear is that I use "language".
God says absolutely nothing about this except using his own name in vain.
The Bitches are simply re-writing the Bible to suit their own agenda, as they did with Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor into the unrecognizable Thou shalt not lie and of course, when they defined Jesus Christ a "booze artist" during tProhibition and almost every priest bowed proudly in the direction of the World.

When can I be so self-righteous? BECAUSE I DO NOT CLAIM TO SPEAK FOR GOD. Granted, I can read, and read back some things in the Bible, but I am not making up, interpreting, or expanding.

If you guys care for the truth, inspite of all these things these men write which fall under either gnosticism, marconianism, thomasinism, and Ebionitism, nevertheless, you can know man's true condition by reading this book,

http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/nee/...v1/1968cont.htm

Wow Troy--Macaroniism? With or without cheese?

Watchman Nee is an awesome read!

two terrific reads are

Sit Walk Stand and Love Not the World

Here are two sites with some excellent stuff.

http://latter-rain.com/eccles/watchmannee.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3087/sprslbdy.htm

ON one of these sites there is an admonition to take care if you do not have a strong background in the Bible. Watchman Nee is one of those guys that can take you to places not intended if you are careless or not a disciplined thinker.