megabear
Oct 11 2004, 03:46 PM
How Bush's Grandfather helped Hitler Rise to PowerI've read the link been Prescott Bush and Hilter lots of times, but NEVER in a mainstream news source. Why now? They claim they've found lost documents BS; those documents have been there for anyone to find and many authors have reference them. This is a very strange twist; are the Big Boys cutting Bushie out?
EXCERPT:
>>How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president
Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Saturday September 25, 2004
The Guardian <<
ShitEatingGrinner
Oct 11 2004, 07:34 PM
Bad news indeed. Kerry in power puts the good cop face on tyranny. Postpones the revolt needed to wipe away the imperial state. But I concur with your logic. A few of these stories in the "right" place in America, and bye-bye to the Chimp and Snarl fiasco.
mirac
Oct 16 2004, 02:22 PM
depends
Oct 16 2004, 02:52 PM
| QUOTE (ShitEatingGrinner @ Oct 11 2004, 03:34 PM) |
| Kerry in power puts the good cop face on tyranny. |
I agree.
Can't we get, just once, a leader who
will uphold the Constitution.
When was the last one?
ShitEatingGrinner
Oct 16 2004, 03:20 PM
Jefferson? Washington?
threadbare
Oct 16 2004, 05:16 PM
I guess there are some corporate fascists who still want the Bushies in there, but they're probably scaring the sh** out of most of the corporate world. You're probably dead right that many of them are doing their utmost to expose them.
Truth be told, the Bush Nazi connection will have no effect on their constituents, whatsoever. Not that they're all members of the Ku Klux Clan, just wannabes. I really think it's past the point of logic now. The US govt. has been hijacked by nuts and a**hol** and their people like it that way. If you haven't switched parties by now, or decided to vote Nadar or not at all, nothing will change your mind. If Bush dropped his drawers and mooned the town hall meeting, wouldn't have mattered. If it was exposed that he eats children for breakfast, same.
The brown one
Oct 19 2004, 10:51 PM
| QUOTE (threadbare @ Oct 16 2004, 07:16 PM) |
I guess there are some corporate fascists who still want the Bushies in there, but they're probably scaring the sh** out of most of the corporate world. You're probably dead right that many of them are doing their utmost to expose them.
Truth be told, the Bush Nazi connection will have no effect on their constituents, whatsoever. Not that they're all members of the Ku Klux Clan, just wannabes. I really think it's past the point of logic now. The US govt. has been hijacked by nuts and a**hol** and their people like it that way. If you haven't switched parties by now, or decided to vote Nadar or not at all, nothing will change your mind. If Bush dropped his drawers and mooned the town hall meeting, wouldn't have mattered. If it was exposed that he eats children for breakfast, same. |
Oh,I think a few pics of him dancing around naked in a pentacle drawn on the floor,dagger in hand about to sacrifice a young virgin on a devil's altar whilst swigging a bottle of Jack Daniels with a white-powdered top lip,would do some damage

.
But otherwise, I think you're right!
machinehead
Oct 19 2004, 10:57 PM
| QUOTE (The brown one @ Oct 19 2004, 06:51 PM) |
| QUOTE (threadbare @ Oct 16 2004, 07:16 PM) | I guess there are some corporate fascists who still want the Bushies in there, but they're probably scaring the sh** out of most of the corporate world. You're probably dead right that many of them are doing their utmost to expose them.
Truth be told, the Bush Nazi connection will have no effect on their constituents, whatsoever. Not that they're all members of the Ku Klux Clan, just wannabes. I really think it's past the point of logic now. The US govt. has been hijacked by nuts and a**hol** and their people like it that way. If you haven't switched parties by now, or decided to vote Nadar or not at all, nothing will change your mind. If Bush dropped his drawers and mooned the town hall meeting, wouldn't have mattered. If it was exposed that he eats children for breakfast, same. |
Oh,I think a few pics of him dancing around naked in a pentacle drawn on the floor,dagger in hand about to sacrifice a young virgin on a devil's altar whilst swigging a bottle of Jack Daniels with a white-powdered top lip,would do some damage  . |
If you HAVE that photo from W's Skull & Bones initiation, O Brown One, you'd best keep a lid on it ...
The brown one
Oct 19 2004, 11:36 PM
Ah yes,THAT photo.In the days that men were men and photo's weren't taken lightly
A negative was a permanent physical record of the scene before the camera and the guy at the drug store decided whether he called the police or asked you if you could get him any more of that "sort" of stuff
threadbare
Oct 20 2004, 01:58 AM
I don't know if those pics of Kerry would be that damaging. He makes much of the fact that he is Catholic and grew up an altered boy.
The brown one
Oct 20 2004, 10:56 AM
Threadbare: Did it seem like I was referring to Kerry?Oops!
machinehead
Oct 20 2004, 11:21 AM
| QUOTE (threadbare @ Oct 19 2004, 09:58 PM) |
| I don't know if those pics of Kerry would be that damaging. He makes much of the fact that he is Catholic and grew up an altered boy. |
Oh, my ... there used to be entire choirs made up of 'altered boys.'
Funny, his voice doesn't sound that squeaky to me ...
threadbare
Oct 20 2004, 03:59 PM
Brown One, In my zeal to use the term altered boy, I completely skipped that you were referring to Bush! Major skull and bones faux pas.
Machinehead--Get thee to a punnery
The brown one
Oct 20 2004, 09:30 PM
That's ok Threadbare
I used to be a choir boy but never made it to the status of altered boy.
By the time my voice "altered" (never really broke),I was so sick of it all that I told the choirmaster that I only wanted to remain a choirboy if I could sing bass--which I couldn't--and promptly extricated myself from the choir and the church but not before I was cajoled into playing the "Good Fairy" in the church play
Later,I went on to become an atheist with not inconsiderable success,I might add
threadbare
Oct 20 2004, 10:46 PM
You would have made a much more convincing good fairy if you HAD been an altered boy, Brown One.
My parents, didn't believe in God but were actively involved in sins of the flesh at least once a week so they made us kids go to Sunday school. Whatever church was closer, that was my religion that year. Too damned bad there were no Buddhist temples nearby. It was actually C.S Lewis who gave me an impression that there was more to life than the mundane. And that was a good thing because Saskatchewan was a bleak wasteland inhabited by freckly fat women in squaredancing outfits, the flourescant lights of Woolworth's stores illuminating the framed print of "the village smithy", and goofy kids on toboggans.
Good to get that off my chest

And somehow, brown one, I knew you'd understand.
machinehead
Oct 20 2004, 11:11 PM
| QUOTE (threadbare @ Oct 20 2004, 06:46 PM) |
| It was actually C.S Lewis who gave me an impression that there was more to life than the mundane. And that was a good thing because Saskatchewan was a bleak wasteland inhabited by freckly fat women in squaredancing outfits, the flourescant lights of Woolworth's stores illuminating the framed print of "the village smithy", and goofy kids on toboggans. |
OMG ... the horror, the horror.
It could have been worse, I guess ... you could have been a Manitoban.
The Brown One -- the "Good Fairy" -- I laughed out loud. Are you alright now?
Main stream? It’s all shit creek as far as the media goes.
It is likely that in the Bush administrations mad gluttonous rush to transfer wealth, they have managed to piss off a substantial number of would be backers.
With passionate conservatism being implemented with a likeness to Sherman’s march, there is going to be a lot of friendly fire.
Jorma
Nov 1 2004, 10:55 PM
The important lesson to be learned from Prescot Bush's, along with and thru the Harriman's and the old White Shoes Wall Street crowd doing bussiness with Germany in the 30's isn't that they were Nazi's or even sympathtic to them but rather that it's simply good bussiness to work with strong national leaders of any stripe.
Ethics, morality or even politics have nothing to do with it. The lesson was learned in the 30's and has been a driving force in not only bussiness but thru bussiness into foreign policy ever since.
Profit is the motive, pure and simple. From Hitler to Pinoche to Saddam himself, and the Saudi's most of all perhaps, where there are deals to be done American capital will be there. Prescott was no Nazi, he was a bussinessman.
Instead of riffing on this I'll just add that there used to be in America, rightly I may add, a healthy contempt for bussinessmen. A minor subset of this even existed well into the 50's where contempt for the 'organization man', corprate man, was rampant thruout main street America. Now however corprate man and bussinessman are hearlded as the highest of the high, the best of the best. The most admired and respected. Veritable heros who have made America what it is.
This absurd situation is in many ways the foundation of everything Stoolies see wrong with the system.
Gladiator
Nov 2 2004, 03:26 AM
| QUOTE (depends @ Oct 16 2004, 09:52 AM) |
| QUOTE (ShitEatingGrinner @ Oct 11 2004, 03:34 PM) | | Kerry in power puts the good cop face on tyranny. |
I agree.
Can't we get, just once, a leader who will uphold the Constitution.
When was the last one?
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