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threadbare
This is THE most likely scenario for keeping people home from voting on Nov.2. Forget incendiary attacks. Strange that the flu vaccine this year was inadequate. Strange CNN just announced, "Do you know how vulnerable to bioterrorism the lack of flu vaccine makes us?"

If you lived in LA or New York, and got one whopper of a flu bug just prior to the election, would you go to the voting station? I'm not talking sniffles, but the full blown, barfing your guts out type. What if the bug is so contagious people are being advised to stay indoors so they don't spread it? Now, many will drag themselves to the polls anyway, no matter what, even if they have to be escorted in by stretcher, but many won't.

If a highly contagious flu strain were unleashed in key democratic areas, just prior to the elections, the effects would be predictable. It has a huge plausbile deniability factor, built right in. Why, it COULD happen in a purely coincidental way. But if it does, the rest of the world won't be convinced. If I were a wiley dictator type, this would be my totalitarian tool of choice.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind readers of the many microbiologists who have died mysteriously, in the last few years. Steven Mostow, leading bioterrorism and influenza expert was killed in a private plane, in 2002.


From CNN, a quote from Mostow before his death:

"We are very worried we will have a worldwide pandemic of influenza that will affect probably 40 percent of the world's population," said Dr. Steven Mostow of the University of Colorado. Mostow said the number of people killed from such a wave of influenza could rival some of the worst outbreaks in modern times"

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/01/17/...omy.of.the.flu/


The larger picture: From Workopolis, reprinted from original Globe and Mail article

The following day, Steven Mostow, 63, known as Dr. Flu for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism, died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

So what does any of it mean?

"Statistically, what are the chances?" wondered a prominent North American microbiologist reached last night at an international meeting of infectious-disease specialists in Chicago.

Janet Shoemaker, director of public and scientific affairs of the American Society for Microbiology in Washington, D.C., pointed out yesterday that there are about 20,000 academic researchers in microbiology in the U.S. Still, not all of these are of the elevated calibre of those recently deceased.

She had a chilling, final thought. When microbiologists die in a lab, there's a way of taking note of the deaths and adding them up. When they die in freakish accidents outside the lab, nobody keeps track.

http://globeandmail.workopolis.com/servlet...20020504/UMURDN


machinehead
QUOTE (threadbare @ Oct 15 2004, 05:53 PM)
This is THE most likely scenario for keeping people home from voting on Nov.2. Forget incendiary attacks.  Strange that the flu vaccine this year was inadequate. Strange CNN just announced, "Do you know how vulnerable to bioterrorism the lack of flu vaccine makes us?"

Puts a whole different light on this study, doesn't it:

QUOTE
University of Washington scientists are embarking on a journey that could help save millions of human lives: They are trying to understand how the 1918 influenza virus, which killed more than 30 million, did its lethal work.

The UW researchers will infect monkeys with separate genes from the virus and analyze the impact  —  from damage to lung tissue to how the immune system responds. 

Scientists at four other institutions across the nation will collaborate in the study, financed by a five-year, $12.5 million grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH). They will use genes constructed after studies of 1918 flu-virus particles salvaged from the bodies of World War I soldiers and an exhumed Alaska resident from that era.


Working against the clock

Now if we could just find a flu bug that only attacks democrats ... laugh.gif
threadbare
This is how conspiracies work. Very few people would have to be involved. Just a couple of tiny vials of a toxic substance, with a convincing cover story. One person, with the backing of a few behind the scenes bad guys could do it on their own, if they were so inclined.

Machinehead, They've dug up the Spanish flu. Cool. When are they going to start recalling cancer patients to put their tumours back in? What is the reasoning behind this? Presumably, people alive today have some natural immunity to it or their parents, grandparents would have died?

depends
QUOTE (machinehead @ Oct 15 2004, 07:27 PM)
"Do you know how vulnerable to bioterrorism the lack of flu vaccine makes us?"

Touch screen voting. Passing the flu from
voter to voter. ohmy.gif
megabear
Every cloud has it's silver lining; the flu is also the easiest way to solve those pesky problem of underfunding of Social Security, Pension and Medicare.

I will say that my family has all got whacked in the past week with a flu that sets up in your lungs (something we are not prone to); and, it's very difficult to rid oneself of it. It also seems pretty early in the season for this type of malady.
threadbare
If you have the flu, martial law is self imposed. It's called staying at home and getting plenty of rest. wink2.gif The media/govt spin--"We don't know if this was unleashed by terrorists or not, but the perpetrator could still be at large, so we caution people to avoid congregating in groups in public places unless they have to."

It will become a public health issue, with a modern twist. Talking heads and experts are probably honing their talking points as I key this in.

"Attending protest marches is probably the most dangerous activity, in terms of contagion. A terrorist could very well take advantage of people gathered in this way and capitalize on the chaos to spread their deadly poisons. People attend protests when they're stressed and emotional, plus the weather can be freezing cold. The perfect environment for opportunistic viruses".

Of course they could pull out all the stops and actually arrest people who leave their homes, in the interest of public safety, but that may prove entirely unnecessary.

The flu will be a lollapolooza this year. Could be a happy coincidence for the administration. And we all know that flues generally hit port cities first, the same ones that vote heavily democrat. One thing that can be predicted is a steep rise in coincidence, synchronicites, and mistakes around election time, that will probably be in Bush's favour. They aren't going to be taken down, if they can help it. They could be taken down by some more Machievellian than themselves. That isn't the most pleasant of thoughts either. Betcha there are plenty of CIA working on their own time on this.

Mega, Sorry to hear about your flu. Just curious. Do you have cats? I haven't had so much as a cough for over 20 years, since I quit living with cats.
megabear
I do have cats. I'd venture to say you were quite allergic to them. I don't seem to have that problem myself, but my high-school aged son seems sensitive. We keep the cats out of his room because of it; he really only has symptoms if they sneak in on his bed (which is never now). But, pondering your question, I realize that each year for the past two or three he has come down with that crappy sort of lung flu that takes a long time to get over. I never thought of the fact that one's allergic reaction to cat hair (even when kept at bay) might make one more suseptible to the flu, but that makes sense. Bummer, we're fond of these stupid cats. And here's some irony for you. This morning I found one of them had gotten himself so tied up in the twine handle of a paper bag that he was choking to death. I had to cut it off his neck.
mirac
It may be wise to start building up your bodies immunity now. Many options available, including eating properly and reducing stress-sex works-just not with anyone who has the ailment. As for these weird colds and flus, my feeling is that they are in the chemtrails. (here many of the colds begin with a peculiar tickle in the nose first and then it's damn difficult to shake. This has been going on for a number of years. I had the tickle last week, but the cold didn't take, whereas my friend got the tickle and now he is under the weather!) The possibility of a 'pandemic flu' is a very real concern as about twenty top microbiologists of the world have died in the last two years, many of them under mysterious circumstances. Somethings up. Basically...avoid the public as best you can.
megabear
Here's a flu remedy I make. I forget the doctor 's name who invented it (a famous holistic guy). I made this for the first time last year. It's tough to drink - spicy (to say the least) but if you're in a bind, it's worth it. This year the flu caught up with us before I made my first batch, I've got some brewing now.

Take a quart sized bottle
Fill to 3/4 full with 1/5th part each of the following FRESH veggies (chopped or shredded preferably organic):

Garlic (chop)
White (hot) onion - (chop)
Ginger Root - (easiest to shred)
Horseradish Root - (easiest to shred)
Jalapeno (or other super hot peppers) chop using gloves!

This is a lot of veggies - probably 6 heads or more or garlic and a dozen Jalapenos for example.

Pour Organic unpasterized Apple Cider Vinegar to the top.

This recipe is supposed to be made on a new moon and left to ferment for one month until the full moon. I don't know what effect the phases of the moon actually have, but I do know there is a doctor who performed studies involving herbal tintures and he found that the phase of the moon that they were made in had a distinct affect on their potency. That said, I try and follow the instructions as closely as possible. Keep the bottle on the counter in plain view so you can shake it whenever you think of it, preferably twice or three times a day.

I can't say I've really got to put this stuff to the big test as I made my first batch last year at the tail end of a flu some of my family members had. My college aged kid came over with a terrible congestion in his face and nose and I gave him a shot of it and it cleared the cogestion el pronto (nearly killed him though) LOL.

If the BIG flu comes through, it isn't a bad idea to have every possible anti-flu weapon in the arsenal.




The brown one
Megabear. With all the chopped garlic it will surely make anyone else keep their distance! ohmy.gif
sherlock_online
QUOTE (The brown one @ Nov 2 2004, 07:07 PM)
Megabear. With all the chopped garlic it will surely make anyone else keep their distance! ohmy.gif

Whatever works... LOL
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