Iran is next

could be trigger for global stock meltdown and gold spike past $500

and new high for crude

Bush is clearing the decks and will not stop, on the contrary he's just getting started

Libya bent over

Taliban, Inc. shut down

Saddam & Co. in jail or dead

Kofi washed up at U.N., caught pocketing $$$ with his son, more to be exposed

Arafat dead

Kerry defeated

Clinton not lookin' too healthy, like bitter angry old man in Jennings interview:

A paranoid-sounding Bill Clinton threatened ABC News anchorman Peter Jennings in an interview broadcast Thursday night, in a bizarre rant about his impeachment that laid bare the ex-president's persecution complex.
"You don't want to go here, Peter," Clinton warned after Jennings told him that historians ranked him second to last of all presidents in terms of moral authority.
Squinting his eyes, an angry Clinton seethed: "You don't want to go here. Not after what you people did. And the way you - your network - what you did with Kenneth Starr. The way your people repeated every little sleazy thing he did. No one has any idea of what that's like."

Lots of other important people made the mistake of assuming GW would lose, and opened their mouths too soon. For example, Chirac is caught on tape on his cellphone calling GW an idiot among other things. Uh-oh, 4 more years of GW.

Anyway, GW has Iran surrounded. Look at the map. U.S. troops in Iraq and Kuwait to the west, Afghanistan to the east. Navy in Persian Gulf. Military allies in other border countries Turkey and Pakistan.

Regime change coming in Iran.

Won't be pretty.

Loss of global CONfidence will hurt stocks.

Shorty, my brother, I have to disagree with you: I thought Clinton was spot-on in his up-braiding of Jennings and ABC News. This is a discussion for Political Stool.

I agree with you that Iran is next, however, and that things are about to get even scarier.

Yeah, I'm with you Slothrop. With terrrorism issues and 911, and this spiraling huge cyclone budget deficit and all the other problems we have nationallly and internationally-- you know why we have them? Because we spent literally years with our news media and our country focusing on a president's sex life, as if that was all there was to be concerned about. No wonder we are in the mess we are in now. Can you imagine how much better off we would be if we had spent those Clinton impeachment years focusing on national security and economic issues instead? Regardless of whether you love, hate, or feel neutralyl toward Clinton, that's the reality here.

Clinton is a manipulative narcissistic slug, a sociopathic con man who obstructed justice, and conned everyone who still believes in him. His behavior was reprehensible, and he alone is solely responsible for the atmosphere of moral decadence, skirting the law, cheating, and profligacy which pervades our society today. He has no one to blame for the trouble he brought upon himself, or the trouble this country is in today. Had he had even one single shred of decency and honor in his character, which he does not, the Bush junta would never have been able to seize power. I blame Clinton for the advent of the corrupt one party state dictatorship we live under today. Mind you, I consider myself a liberal Democrat, and I firmly believe that the Democratic Party screwed itself when they backed this monster. The party lost any claim to the moral high ground forever. It was a shameful disgrace.

When I have the time, I will split off the posts related to this topic to a thread in Political Stool. It doesn't belong here, but it's critical that we all recognize the huge role this creep played in the evolution of our social, political, and economic problems we now face.

Word Doc! But let's give the degenerate one credit for being able to multi-task.....that's one thing he has over the current bufoon in chief. Statesmen????
I don't know whether to laugh or cry........

Doc, it's highly entertaining when you tear the shit out of everyone.

[quote=273425,Nov 19 2004, 07:50 PM]
[quote=DrStool,Nov 19 2004, 07:07 PM]Clinton is a manipulative narcissistic slug, a sociopathic con man who obstructed justice, and conned everyone who still believes in him. His behavior was reprehensible, and he alone is solely responsible for the atmosphere of moral decadence, skirting the law, cheating, and profligacy which pervades our society today. He has no one to blame for the trouble he brought upon himself, or the trouble this country is in today. Had he had even one single shred of decency and honor in his character, which he does not, the Bush junta would never have been able to seize power. I blame Clinton for the advent of the corrupt one party state dictatorship we live under today.  Mind you, I consider myself a liberal Democrat, and I firmly believe that the Democratic Party screwed itself when they backed this monster. The party lost any claim to the moral high ground forever. It was a shameful disgrace. 

When I have the time, I will split off the posts related to this topic to a thread in Political Stool. It doesn't belong here, but it's critical that we all recognize the huge role this creep played in the evolution of our social, political, and economic problems we now face.

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Excellent points all, Good Doctor. The only 2 I really see differently are that 1) he is "solely responsible" for all this corruption. He has had a whole lot of help in that area from corrupt friends and foes alike. Couldn't have done it alone. You really think so too, I see, as you fault those who backed him.

And I also think that no matter how bad a president's sexual morality is, the nation should not exclusively focus on that for years on end. The news media and the Congress and all of us who put up with it-- or who used the issue to sell TV shows or newspapers-- were insane I think, quite out of touch with sane national priorities, and we continue to pay for it now.

I love your boards, Dr. Stool. You are da Man!

Very well stated Dok abd I concur with most everything said above--but before we say NEVER--Please TAKE a long retrospective glance at the History of the Papacy--like everything else in this round ball of a world Cycles Cycle Cycles up and down and down and up
beardrech--But BD you fool In the Long Run we are .......................

Shorty, - Clinton could have corn holed 7 year old girls in the Oval Office and he would be Mother Teresa to the anti-Christ that now resides there. A blood cult fanatic. The next great historical Facist. Anyone who fails to see this is simply not bothering to read or is in heavy denial or sexually extremely repressed. Sorry. I have had it with people not seeing what is sitting on their face.

Windy, I used to cruise the Moustache back in the 80s. Chock full of unemployed,star-struck actresses. Many of them working on their third drink by 9 p.m. Those were more innocent times, unless you were living in El Salvador.

I don't share everyones enthusiasm for the coming chart collpase. Today was OE and option writers needed to vaporize lots of retail value. OE reversal. Sometimes it just comes late, thats all. Greenspan's indecent and hypocritical decrying of household debt just aided the fall. I anticipate a turnaround Tuesday into Turkey day. Who knows? I certainly ain't going to call a top or a bottom in this market after all these years based in one day's activity on OE day of all things. Absurd.

That said, 2005 should bring back the Bear for a good while. Oil may just go to 100 dollars in 18 months or so and this economy is screwed bigtime. I'm looking to sell my real estate by early Spring and move my money out of the country. The political situation has never been more dangerous, the leadership more bloodthirsty and incompetent. C. Rice as head negotiator? I guess the biggest fece floats right up to the surface doesn't it? An international war criminal for Attorney General? Why not? Who cares for the Geneva Conventions anyway?

VEry unstable financial times ahead but yet not before all the sheeple are back in. There is still lots of new money pouring in on this last leg and it tis the season. Seasonality like this is often 'self-fulfilling' like that double bottom we had in the S&P to start the bull rally in 03' was it? Consent is managed by the media to an extent.

Well put.

Still people harping on Clinton and moral values? On this board? What a dissappointment. Guys just go out and get laid and if you can't manage it than find a nice sweet hooker and let off some steam. Just stop with all the hate and the moralizing and the blind ignorance. Enjoy your lives and let yourselves have a little fun now and then free of guilt. What has happened to this country anyway? I don't care who screws who, when, where or how. Its none of your business unless of course your backed up and have nothing better to do. Its irrelevant. What are we? Some viscious Pilgrims stalking around 17th century Salem.

But its o.k. to murder 110,000 innocent Iraqis. Blow them into little fragments of bone and puss and blood and eyeball. Women and children. Roast the fathers in fire bombs in front of their kids. Then talk about how 'filthy' Clinton was. People need serious mental help. The karma of this nation is extremely self-destructive and prophetic. Prosperity in this country will not stand. Peace will not stand for long here. "It hath the primal eldest curse upon it. A brother's murder."

no doubt

Budha,
i have the utmost respect for your ability to analize the sick greed on wall St and how it plays out but if you think clintler has anything in common with you because you want to take the partisan democratic approach, I'm afraid the NWO pavlovian machine has you bamboozled into believing Clinton was somehow better than bush (smarter yes but definitely not better) when a study of his Ark gov record shows a trail of murders and other gross abuses using the power that was given him by his constituents. I wonder how you would feel if he would have used his bodyguards to 'persuade" your (theoretical) daughter and droped his laundry in front of her face. or what about the aireal assault on the Serbs that the Media covered up very nicely......for sure i think Iraq is worse, but in principle what is the difference? there is none when you have the same bosses.
i couldn't care less how often the cheap harlot from hollywood went down on her knees. ofcourse thats what the media wanted you to focus on. you see, it really is all by design but the cabal is bigger than you think. Comon now don't tell me you believe in the illusion of differences between the parties....talk about bamboozled. do you think there is a grain of difference between Rummy and that deushbag Madeline halfbright....give me a break!
On the subject of sex etc. you are certainly off base with me. All modesty aside i'm going to venture confidently that getting laid is certainly not a problem that i have. And whats the matter with pilgrims anyway just because you and i want to chase around swedish divorcees doesn't mean we are better than them.
or perhaps you see yourself in Clinton, as the womanizer that is. is that your weakness. not to be harsh dude but don't throw stones when you..........know the rest.

i think i should cut the rant before this gets deleted. Bottom line, you aint got nuthin in common with clitler(and vice versa) politically (as he hangs out with same power broker crowds the chimp hangs out with) so don't be a fool and come to his support, he damn well isn't supporting your ass!
stick to what you know man, your moral compass isn't right it's just different!

with all due respect
the Vermin

I recommend that all of you read "The Hunting of the President". There is also a documentary film of the book out now, probably available for rent. Tells the whole story.

Damned straight, Butterfield. Clinton probably had little to do with various people actually being bumped off. Vincent Foster death is a tangled mess that has much more to do with uber creeps like Kenneth Star than Billy boy. I'm not particularly fond of Clinton, because he signed off on the three strikes law, drug search and seizure laws, etc... just to get voted back in. Plus he was on Larry King a couple of months ago and talked about food and his freakin' diet nearly the whole time. They trashed him for having an extramarital affair--Lord. Who cares? They should have impeached him for being a cornball with a shit eating smile and a propensity for bombing innocent civilians in defenceless countries.

Exactly. Clinton's illegal unilateral bombiing of Serbia and Kosovo was the dry run for Bush II's Iraq invasion.

The Repugs who impeached Clinton for lying in connection with the Monica thing got diverted and suckered. Far bigger crimes occurred in connection with illegal Chinese campaign contributions in the 1996 election, the cover-up of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, the Waco massacre in 1993 ... all of which were suppressed by the corrupt attorney general Janet Reno (who established the precedents for politicized mismanagement of 'Justice' by her equally awful successor, Ashcroft).

They should have been impeached Janet Reno first ... then used the threat of criminal prosecution to make her squeal on the Big Cheese himself. But Republicans, like Democrats, are not a real "opposition" in the first place ...

Great article about attacks on Clinton's moral values . Critique of book, "Blinded by the Right"

"On the ethics of this kind of journalism, Brock notes that his various movement employers (in this case, the Spectator) cared only about the political effect of his work, not its accuracy. In 12 years of writing for conservative magazines, he never published a fact-checked article. On the effect of his sensational portrait of Clinton, Brock aptly remarks: "My article depicted ‘Bill’ as a sexually voracious sociopathic cipher, while ‘Hillary’ appeared as a foulmouthed, castrating, power-mad harpy, joined together in a sham power marriage. The piece left such an indelible image in the minds of the media and the public as it led network newscasts and became a staple of Jay Leno monologues and Saturday Night Live skits that it would be possible in the future to say and write and broadcast any crazy thing about the first couple and get away with it. The Clintons were moral monsters."

This time even Brock was stunned by the tremendous effect of his work. The Real Anita Hill was a best seller, but still essentially a movement-phenomenon, catering to the conservative market. The "Troopergate" article, "His Cheatin’ Heart," electrified the mainstream networks and newspapers. In effect, the article made it open season on Clinton for the rest of his presidency, making it possible for pundits to assume the very worst about his moral failings with no threat of censure."

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=2624

A democrat backed muck raking network could have played hackey sack with New Gingrich's head. They could have tied Kenneth Starr to a cross and roasted him alive. But they didn't, nor did they make any effort. Curious.

It leaves me with the uncomfortable feeling that although the Scaiife inspired "Vince Foster murder by the Clintons" (he was probably bumped by Scaiife himself) conspiracy theory was bogus, the Mena Arkansas drug running connection wasn't. It left a compromised Clinton unable to defend himself from the kicks coming from the right wing jackboots. He just rolled over like a big old dog, knowing if he staggered to his feet, he'd get kicked even harder. The dems frame this as "taking the moral high ground". It's nothing of the sort, though they've managed to snooker many of their constituency, by flattering them in this way.

Concluding comments:

"One of the unspoken assumptions of Blinded by the Right is that the political left has nothing like the network of aggressively ideological foundations, magazines, newspapers and institutes that the political right possesses. This assumption is true, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE COUNTRY IS BETTER OFF FOR THAT FACT."

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AAAAARGH Now I'm screaming in pain.

How in the sweet name of Jesus is the country better off for that fact? Soooooooooooooooooooooo wimpy.

Heaven help us.

He starts it with Iran and the amount of FRNs it costs to get an ounce of gold may become a completely academic question.

Got a good look at Clinton the other day. He looks like he may not make it. I wonder if something went terribly haywire with his operation or if this is typical post operative look.

Do any of you have any idea what Bushco might be planning for Iran? Unless they have something pretty inventive up their sleeves, they are by definition, insane.