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Tzu
[attachmentid=62775]trend line play, watching the volume
[attachmentid=62774]breakout
[attachmentid=62772]another
[attachmentid=62771]nice one
=62770]same story
[attachmentid=62769]overbought but looks solid
[attachmentid=62768]wow!
[attachmentid=62767]watch volume, trend line play?
[attachmentid=62766]nice volume
[attachmentid=62765]watching for volume
[attachmentid=62764]space needle
[attachmentid=62763]Massive volume. I got lucky and caught most of this run. Volume is amazing.
[attachmentid=62762]Massive buying. Think Ill wait for a low volume pullback or something...new favorite?
[attachmentid=62761]Nice set up as well but the volume makes it more difficult. Looking forward to record volume for confirmation.
[attachmentid=62759]Long base, large volume coming in.
[attachmentid=62760]Nice Volume off the base. Interesting setups on the whole sector currently. Some are overbought, a few look too risky and others look like they are breaking out of long consolidated bases.
IMO Risk/Reward, volume, chances of higher oil, long bases can mean maximum reward for the lowest risk. I am interested in entries and exits on many of the following to attempt to trade my way to some ltbh positions with the houses money. Later, the objective will be to sell covered calls.
I currently own CPST, ESLR, FCEL in my ltbh account for quite some time. Also a recent entry in GE for a hopeful trade to add shares to the ltbh port later if successful. Trading ARTX for a homeland defense/alt tech combo play.......strategy is Intermediate term trying to time movements and sell partial positions for later entries. Id like to rotate from one to another when selling to avoid the 30day rule..
Lost charts for HYGS and ARTX. Will post later.
Tzu
meant to buy Sasol but havent. It looks like its fixing to break out big...good company.
the setups long term on these are unreal imo...
Tzu
interesting
Tzu
data gathering. some have way low volume but Im still filtering options.

EPG- has two businesses: it runs a power plant that burns waste coal; it sells manure-methane converters. The latter is the growth business, as agribusiness sees it as a way to turn a pollution problem into an energy resource.

UGI-Developing propane and butane technolgies (mainly for europe and china), as well as some alternative (non petroleum) based fuels for electrical generation (also mainly for europe and china). Not very productive in terms of growth at the moment, however if they get their china piece moving in the right direction couls be very lucrative.

ESLR and SPWR. They make solar panels

got this
IMO, the most viable "alternative energy" is gas-to-liquids and coal-to-liquids, on EROEI basis (energy returned on energy invested).

SSL is a big player in the arena, but watch out for confiscatory taxation they may have to face from their gubmint.

RTK is a speculative CTL company to consider

The energy released from the fissioning of 1 pound of U-235 Uranium is the equivalent of 6000 BOE or 1400 metric tons fo coal.... Thought that was an interesting fact... unsure.gif

From another poster a couple years ago
This is actually one area I was interested in long beofre I was interested in stocks . I have been a supporter for years of a decentralized power system that actually encouraged consumers to invest in their own power sources and sell excess energy back to utilites . Transmission line loads would be lightened considerably and reliability would dramatically improve . ( Federal regulations on the transmission side of the equation need to be scaled back to encourage corporations to invest in projects not feasible for small consumers to do alone . ) For those of you who think this can already be done ... it can ... but in many juristictions across it is an intentional dog and pony show if you try to hook up an off the grid power source . Many places "bank" your power but take any excess at the end of the year without compenstaion . Others pay such a ridiculously small amount back it isn't worth the headache of trying to get hooked up in the first place . Still others force you to pay to install two seperate meters and have both read ... then pay you peanuts for any excess while charging you 5 times as much for any power you "used".

Federally mandated rules requiring an easy hookup process , standards for private equipment and reverse metering where one meter is run forward and backward with the consumer recieving 60 % of whatever the commercial power rate is for any excess generation would end power problems in the US overnight . Hundreds of thousands of homes and business already generate the power for all or some of their own power load . Making it actually profitable nationwide to do so would cause a flood of individual investment over the entire power grid coast to coast . ... Course the federal goverment would never do anything smart and easy .


Capstone Turbine (CPST)makes micro turbines that are just a bit larger than a tower case for your computer . They can burn natural gas or even sour biogas , make little noise , and have such a small footprint they can be installed in neighborhoods or even inside specific buildings . (The California power crunch caused many businesses to install their own power sources ... this last flicker will send them in droves to companies like Capstone ) There had already been several installed in New York city trying to alleviate the strain on the supply lines leading into the city .

Even better is BCON (Beacon Power ) They make flywheel storage systems out of carbon fibers . Both Capstone turbines and Beacon's flywheels use magnetic bearing technology that give them long operational lives .



Tzu
Nice link, very helpful. dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif ....also a good example of how diversity pays off creating ltbh positions.....the thread was started when the stocks were way overbought. That isnt the case now. Long consolidating bases, volume, just breaking out on many....hopefully a large fast run to sell into leaving houses money in play and forget about them....thats my plan at least...same with nat gas plays.
Tzu
From the above, I like these for the lower risk entries. ANTP, LB, ACPW, BLDP, PLUG, BCON, ENER and SYNM. Ill use this group to rotate into and out of.....Ill start a port with all listed to track performance from monday morning.

Some of these are at great entry points for ltbh.
Tzu
ANTP took off 32% today...Im now up on my group. The index I created with over 50 stocks is positive after commisions which were large...will take out profits of ANTP soon as well as DIL....at the bottom of the list some are down 10-12%....at20% losses Ill start selling half positions of the bottom 10 stocks and add to the top 10 stocks....
alceringa
RE-Selling "Picks and shovels" to the ethanol producers

I'm dong Sunopta- know its a bit speculative for ethanol processing, but I like the rest of their businesses, provides a cushioning against total failure in ethanol equipment/processes.

Anybody got other candidates for core holdings for suppliers to the ethanol players?

TIA
Tzu
Cellulosic Ethanol Background

Some possible ideas there...corn seems like a bad choice for ethanol....even if its plentiful etc....I just dont see the long term play potential there....maybe 500% gains in some of the corn stocks in the short run though..

Maybe the play is in lighting so the corn can grow 24 hours a day 365 days per year.....miracle grow or something.....since the land doesnt grow, Id think something had to give.....
Maybe the play is in S. America....the largest sugar producers with the most land....
The equipment itself looks like a winner with any scenario...tractors and such..
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