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Flat system can collapse if savers withdraws their money from the banks and stuff them in the mattresses also ask to get paid in cash. This will starve the banking system of liquidity and stop the factional banking process. If one buys the gold then money stays in the banking system and its biz as usual.

If enough money is withdrawn from banking system then cash becomes king and banks will have to call in their loans to satisfy the reserve requirements. Infect banks will have no reserves because they always lend out more cash then in the vaults.

Cash can be king if only its in cash

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Once the Fed has bought something and paid for it with “reserves” thus created out of thin air, Phase II kicks in. Phase II is controlled by the banks and the banks’ customers in what remains in form, despite the ethereal quality of it all, a fractional reserve banking system. The new reserve asset, which the vendor bank received in payment from the Fed, gives the bank the power to begin a process of creating more new money. The aggregate amount of new money that can be created is a multiple of the new reserve asset, equal to the reciprocal of the marginal reserve ratio, today, 10.

To illustrate this process, Rothbard walks us through it, step by step.[5] Say the Fed buys an asset for $10 from Big Bank One. That $10 will support another $100 of fresh money in the banking system in the form of new customer deposit accounts. But the new $100 doesn’t materialize all at once, or on the books of Big Bank One alone. Instead, it comes into being as the result of a gradual series of loan transactions that Big Bank One sets in motion. In what Rothbard calls a “ripple effect”, Big Bank One lends out a portion of the $10, namely $9, (1 minus the reserve requirement, or .9, times $10). That $9 ultimately gets deposited at Big Bank Two, which is the second stop in the series. Big Bank Two lends out .9 times the $9, or $8.10, and so forth, throughout the series. At the end of the series, the total new money thus created in the form of fresh deposit accounts is roughly equal to $100. Thus is our money borrowed into existence.

The same process works in reverse if the Fed, instead of buying something, sells it. This has the effect of draining reserves from the banking system, and will result in a similarly high powered contraction of the money supply.


http://www.goldensextant.com/SavingtheSyst...ml#anchor264033


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation

shorty
Butt I aSSume Hellicopter Ben can print more than caSSh-strapped public can afford to hold in their mattresses getting no interest.
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QUOTE(shorty @ May 21 2006, 10:52 PM)
Butt I aSSume Hellicopter Ben can print more than caSSh-strapped public can afford to hold in their mattresses getting no interest.
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Yes Ben prints but the wages one gets also won’t stay in the banking system, remember $1 is controlling $9 of debt. There are more debtors then creditors which mean assets inflation will stop and move into reverse gear that is also one of the reasons why they always bail out the dying banks.

When one buys gold then one is playing inflationary outcome. Lots of gold bugs must have learnt the lesson by now Just look what happened last week. I would love to see deflation buts it’s not going to happen while depositors get fooled by interest they receive for keeping the scam going and at the same time their purchasing power get evaporate in thin air due to inflation.

Preacher is right about gold if deflation does happen...
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What I have noticed is that Fed is creating more high power money since last year. I am not sure how many months does it take for it fully works its way through the system.

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There is another way assets can deflate, If Banking system can longer lend out due to huge bad loans in their books like the one Japan experienced.

If interest rates are higher then real inflation (assets inflation)

If there is banking crises and people lose confidence in the banking system and there is mass withdrawal of funds. (Post office accounts like the one in Japan or money in the mattress)

If I am not mistaken Banks are passing on the risk to someone else so all they would be losing would be lose of volume and bags holders are somewhere else.

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I am sure someone here may have a different view on how thing will implode.

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Ok, Lets have it out on open.
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