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aussiebear
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aussiebear
Have to drop the mutt off at the vet and do some other biz, back later with market report....


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Okay back into the action... A touch more caution today after yesterday's run. All Ords +0.1% with sectors mixed. Energy is today's winner, +0.9% and Healthcare is at the other end in a pullback, -0.4%.

Miners are up: BHP +0.7%, RIO +0.5% and in the golds, Newcrest and Newmont +0.5% with Lihir flat.

Oils are moving up on reasonable volume: Woodside +1.4% and Santos +0.2%.

Asia heading north: Singers +0.9%, Nikkers +0.8% and Taiwan +0.7%.


aussiebear
Japan's Business Confidence Rises to a Two-Year High

Dec. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Confidence among Japan's largest manufacturers rose to a two-year high in December, easing concern that growth in the world's second-largest economy is losing momentum.

The quarterly Tankan survey, Japan's most closely watched gauge of business sentiment, showed confidence among large manufacturers climbed to 25 points from 24 in September, the Bank of Japan said today in Tokyo. Sentiment for large non- manufacturers rose to 22, beating the estimate for 20.

The result of the survey probably isn't enough to prompt the Bank of Japan to increase the lowest interest rates among major economies at its meeting next week. The bank's policy board will probably want to examine more data after a report last week showed the economy grew at the slowest rate in almost two years as consumer spending slid.


aussiebear
China Communications Construction's Shares Advance

Dec. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Shares of China Communications Construction Co., builder of the world's biggest port by tonnage, surged as much as 70 percent in their first day of trading in Hong Kong.

The Chinese state-controlled company lured investors with prospects of higher orders as spending on ports, railroads and roads expands in the world's fastest-growing major economy. China's port throughput has surged 13-fold since 1978, when Deng Xiaoping began free-market policies that led to 10-fold economic growth.

About 90 percent of world trade travels by ship. In 2005, China's eight biggest ports accounted for 28 percent of the volume processed by the world's top 30 ports, according to Containerisation International.


Janitor
Morning Stoolville

All Orbs inversely correlated to success of Aussie cricket team?

Weaker preformance this morning from ASX and the Pomms.......
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Please note, on time tongue.gif

Today's action is looking like a short term consolidation. All Ords finished the day +0.1% and sectors remained mixed. Energy kept the lead, +1.7% but Telecom wasn't far behind at +1.5%. Healthcare remained at the other end, -0.8% with Utilities -0.7%.

BHP, +0.5% and RIO, +0.7% remained static and the golds went basically nowhere with Lihir and Newmont closing slightly down and Newcrest +0.9%.

Oils were definitely the stars today: Woodside +2.7% and Santos +1%.

Asia still up but levelling out...

Over to UK/Europe:

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alceringa
If the name Jonathan Lebed sounds familiar, its because he's the kid that incurred the wrath of the SEC when he was a 14 year old.

His supposed crime? Posting on Yahoo stock message boards, pumping stocks under various aliases.

Story-

http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/rbb/risd/Lebed.html

Six years later, he's still up to his old antics, albiet more openly.

He's currently just started pumping PWAC, but clearly states that he is being paid to do it.

He's sending out E-mails every 2-3 hours hyping it.

Move started yesterday on roughly 50X average volume-


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If you go back and look at his stock picks, they are actually not that bad, hyped or otherwise. Link

Might put some beer money on PWAC, just to for fun. Do your own DD.


alceringa
Janitor-

244 is starting to look pretty good.
Charmin
Chinese YZC coal looking better than FDG coal

YZC breaks through resistance
http://www.StockSharePublishing.com/ChartL..._1166163421.png
Charmin
Lots of power needed in China

HNP
http://www.StockSharePublishing.com/ChartL..._1166165262.png
Janitor
well, ALL ORBS not weaker really. Up a smidgen to close at all time, life highs

Monty standing tall!!

For context: ASX in Euro terms

Janitor
New all time life time highs on the FTSE, DAX and the CAC40. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
DrStool
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alceringa
Technically, think you mean multi-year highs, not all time highs.

But the real point is that global melt-up continues almost everywhere you look.

Lots of talk by Merkins about hot China stocks, and China stocks are strong.

Meanwhile, closer to home, Toronto and Mexico are steaming North with a vengance.

TSE closed over 13,000 yesterday for the first time ever.

And look at the Mehiko market.

Beating the pants off of Shanghai, but hardly a word about it anywhere.

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PS-Monty for PM!
Tzu
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 15 2006, 01:05 AM)
If the name Jonathan Lebed sounds familiar, its because he's the kid that incurred the wrath of the SEC when he was a 14 year old.

His supposed crime? Posting on Yahoo stock message boards, pumping stocks under various aliases.

Story-

http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/rbb/risd/Lebed.html

Six years later, he's still up to his old antics, albiet more openly.

He's currently just started pumping PWAC, but clearly states that he is being paid to do it.

He's sending out E-mails every 2-3 hours hyping it.

Move started yesterday on roughly 50X average volume-


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If you go back and look at his stock picks, they are actually not that bad, hyped or otherwise. Link

Might put some beer money on PWAC, just to for fun. Do your own DD.
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The master kid genious who blows 30 year pros out of the water using psychology is just great. The gov. needs to just hire these people, that is all there is to it.

Let this guy get rich first. GIVE him the money. Turn his focus to helping people online. He cares more about being right I bet than the money in the long tem. I'd bet there is nothing on this earth that makes him feel better than helping anyone.
That must take some super kahonas though. I don't know how he gets past the conscience part and has to sell his arguments many times.
Selling his arguments is key. We need this guy to run a world wide charity. I think he could achieve amazing things.

Check this out! Amazing! At least we all know the function of CAU, RIC and the mini me boyz here at the stool! Don't worry, all of the stoolies here pump them reguarly to each other!! laugh.gif
The average daily trading volume of the small companies he dealt in was about 60,000 shares; on the days he posted his messages, volume soared to more than a million shares.

We need this guy to teach Psych 990N

NAtural debating champion as well.
Initially the S.E.C. had demanded he give it all up, but then backed off when the kid put up a fight.

He is an OCD masterpiece.

Take your focus off the message boards for a second.

He is using the same techniques as the billionaire playboy newspaper owners.

What is the difference? I wonder what his online name is?
Spinmaster?
Master of da' spin
Pigpong Champion. laugh.gif
Tzu
QUOTE(Charmin @ Dec 15 2006, 01:17 AM)
Chinese YZC coal looking better than FDG coal

YZC breaks through resistance
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10x's better imo.
Anyone have that ADR list?
Those others you mentioned were my trading team at one point. Same with the Jap momos etc.
Tzu
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 15 2006, 05:52 AM)
Technically, think you mean multi-year highs, not all time highs.

But the real point is that global melt-up continues almost everywhere you look.

Lots of talk by Merkins about hot China stocks, and China stocks are strong.

Meanwhile, closer to home, Toronto and Mexico are steaming North with a vengance.

TSE closed over 13,000 yesterday for the first time ever.

And look at the Mehiko market.

Beating the pants off of Shanghai, but hardly a word about it anywhere.

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Mexico, imo, is the absolute #1 investment out there long term imo. Just because it is right there. My thoughts focus on industrialization type stuff and mostly just land. Even land 100 miles in on an elevated plain or something.
My nmind just shuts down when it starts to think of all the possibilities.

Just think about the single words words here
Taxes
Safety
Medicine
Hospital
Growth
Retirement

I know if this is a massive long term bull that they will eventually beat even the best who try to hold onto it ltbh.
Take out the concern of 50% full retracements and cost average long term instead of attempt to trade it or anything.
I have thought about this a lot and how I should play Mexico over the next decade or 3. Just look at the chart of MExico.
LEts be honest, who here thinks they could have played EWM correctly and held thru that massive shanking that has completely recovered 6 months later?
Think about it. The boyz have massive amounts of cash and if they are thinking long term they will just tip the boat every few years and cause a 50% retracement. 99% of people get smashed but the pigmen make fortunes hedging and chunk the gains into the beat up funds at the same time "cost averaging".

Even Einstein will tell you that you should study this more than all things or something to that nature.
He has quotes of how mind boggling compounding was to him.
Tzu
alceringa, added to post above. I usually do that this early to minimize chain posting.

Both of them.
Tzu
Check out that kid with the airplane poses etc. in the picture gallery

I love it!

All it says, is

"Look at me! Suckas!!"
"Slapp!"

I signed up for the newsletter. What the heck, he's paying for the lawyers! I bet he has some great skills we can learn.

We just don't need to link them here again!

Leave him to the Yahoo boards from here! laugh.gif

Or maybe not, it should be at the least, fun to watch.

Look at the exact juncture he is doing it at.


Check out the first stock I see at his watch list.
uWink Inc (UWNK)

He could be fixing to make a fortune.

Super computer freaks with IB accounts and T-3 connections will do great
alceringa
Tzu-

Speaking of Einstein, time is relative.

It is most definately NOT early in the morning.

It's nearly mid-night! laugh.gif
alceringa
Actually, its already tomorrow is Auckland.
Tzu
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 15 2006, 07:04 AM)
Tzu-

Speaking of Einstein, time is relative.

It is most definately NOT early in the morning.

It's nearly mid-night! laugh.gif
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laugh.gif Point taken!
I actually was thinking, "I must have posted saying tomorrow and it is now almost 6:15 am!"

I got up at 2:30.
alceringa
Pong and Chuck E Cheese guy Nolan Bushnell is Chairman of UWink.

Everything he touches doesn't turn to gold, but I wouldn't fade him either.
Tzu
We should make a mockery of it.
It will at the least be a great learning experience I guarantee.
I just want to watch. I have less than 25k in my account now so I think I will stay away. I never can play those things.
This daytrade flag garbage sucks and commison concerns blow. What a sham as usual. Forced out of the game.
Except for those miners like WHT at 1 when I found it here. Best plays EVER but ONLY because I let them ride and said no way they will trick me out.
Especially when you treat them like options and automatically write them off and adjust risk accordingly. Semi permanent time value. That is why I think a little CAU and RIC (ONLY when they are going down. DON't EVER think they will not retrace.) is a fun long term lottery ticket.
That is why I have bought small amounts of F and FCEL and the am looking for ideas on the like.
100 shares on some or like 500 bucks.
Cassiopeia
Breaking down or on supports.

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mmoy
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 15 2006, 02:05 AM)
If the name Jonathan Lebed sounds familiar, its because he's the kid that incurred the wrath of the SEC when he was a 14 year old.

His supposed crime? Posting on Yahoo stock message boards, pumping stocks under various aliases.

Story-

http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/rbb/risd/Lebed.html

Six years later, he's still up to his old antics, albiet more openly.

He's currently just started pumping PWAC, but clearly states that he is being paid to do it.

He's sending out E-mails every 2-3 hours hyping it.

Move started yesterday on roughly 50X average volume-


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If you go back and look at his stock picks, they are actually not that bad, hyped or otherwise. Link

Might put some beer money on PWAC, just to for fun. Do your own DD.
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What's the difference between this kid and Crapvision, Fox, CNN/Money, your
typical mortgage broker, stock broker, real estate broker or financial
analyst?
mmoy
Pictures of AMD 65 nm vs Intel 65 nm. I think that AMD believes that they
can put 1 MB of L2 cache and that it will stack up against Intel's 4 MB of
L2 cache. They can do that because of their integrated memory controller
that means faster main memory access. AMD will also sell 1 MB L2 cache
(per core) chips but those cost a little more. I was tempted to buy AMD's
latest chip in a Dell system after configuring a system last night for about
$1250. The first system that I configured earlier this week came out to
$2K. Not sure if Dell dropped the price or if it's a mistake on their website.

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=23104489
Tzu
The value of a name is not calculated in the financial reports.

Ford.
We're talkin Mustangs, the 60's, horse power and days of our youth.
What is that worth?
What haopens when the next revolution finally takes hold?
520hp "dual fuelcell super charged" love machine baby!

You can bet it on it right now and just write it off, forget about it and treat it as a semi permanent call option.
Don't ever trade it again. Don't even think about it for the next decade. Check back in a decade and do the math. It probably trumps the current debt.
DrStool
woooooOWWWWW!
Tzu
What happened? I am watching the X-Files. It is a good one. Can't change the channel now during the final action scenes.
Cassiopeia
Early birds get the 20 point NQ worm, wow. Then we take the rest of the day off? Is that the pigscript? biggrin.gif
Tzu
QQQQ is gets rocketed hard core. Stocks do not reflect it that I can tell...WOW!!! Big volume hitting. 4% already. Thats above average and those are block trades.
DrStool
QUOTE(Tzu @ Dec 15 2006, 08:31 AM)
The value of a name is not calculated in the financial reports.

Ford.
We're talkin Mustangs, the 60's, horse power and days of our youth.
What is that worth?
What haopens when the next revolution finally takes hold?
520hp "dual fuelcell super charged" love machine baby!

You can bet it on it right now and just write it off, forget about it and treat it as a semi permanent call option.
Don't ever trade it again. Don't even think about it for the next decade. Check back in a decade and do the math. It probably trumps the current debt.
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Not true. It's called goodwill.

And if F goes BK, the current common shareholders will get none of it because the liabilities outweigh the value of all the assets combined, including goodwill. It's called negative shareholder equity. The bond holders and other creditors will get the new stock. Current shareholders will get zero. If you want to bet on F recovering, fine, but like a call option, it could easily go to zero.
Tzu
QUOTE(Cassiopeia @ Dec 15 2006, 08:35 AM)
Early birds get the 20 point NQ worm, wow.  Then we take the rest of the day off?  Is that the pigscript?  biggrin.gif
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3 day weekend baby! Booyah!

Wild Jamaican shooters, moonwalks and lap dances!
Cassiopeia
QUOTE(Tzu @ Dec 15 2006, 09:37 AM)
QUOTE(Cassiopeia @ Dec 15 2006, 08:35 AM)
Early birds get the 20 point NQ worm, wow.  Then we take the rest of the day off?  Is that the pigscript?  biggrin.gif
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3 day weekend baby! Booyah!

Wild Jamaican shooters, moonwalks and lap dances!
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alceringa
CPI numbers

Eurotickblasters and futures bonerramma are now engaged.

Scotty-Sound the meltup siren!

DrStool
QUOTE(Tzu @ Dec 15 2006, 08:36 AM)
QQQQ is gets rocketed hard core. Stocks do not reflect it that I can tell...WOW!!! Big volume hitting. 4% already. Thats above average and those are block trades.
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Since the QQQQ is made up of 100 stocks, it's not true to say that stocks don't reflect it. The QQQQ reflects stocks, at least those in the NDX, not vice versa.
K Wave Rider
Gold tryin' to turn the corner again...anything over 633 should get it going...630 pivot looks pretty much set in stone now...a break of that would most likely be fatal now...
summoner
Here come the blowoff
DrStool
SPY also up sharply off the open. It's ex dividend today, hence the gap down on the pre market open. QQQQ also ex div, but minimal impact because div is so small.
summoner
Gap n crap after the 9:45 print?
Tzu
QUOTE(DrStool @ Dec 15 2006, 08:37 AM)
QUOTE(Tzu @ Dec 15 2006, 08:31 AM)
The value of a name is not calculated in the financial reports.

Ford.
We're talkin Mustangs, the 60's, horse power and days of our youth.
What is that worth?
What haopens when the next revolution finally takes hold?
520hp "dual fuelcell super charged" love machine baby!

You can bet it on it right now and just write it off, forget about it and treat it as a semi permanent call option.
Don't ever trade it again. Don't even think about it for the next decade. Check back in a decade and do the math. It probably trumps the current debt.
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Not true. It's called goodwill.

And if F goes BK, the current common shareholders will get none of it because the liabilities outweigh the value of all the assets combined, including goodwill. It's called negative shareholder equity. The bond holders and other creditors will get the new stock. Current shareholders will get zero. If you want to bet on F recovering, fine, but like a call option, it could easily go to zero.
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Ahhh, I keep forgetting about the K-Mart card. I still think 100 shares isn't really hurting anything. That is all I have.
K Wave Rider
Yen tryin' to turn the Dollar back at the key 118 level..
DrStool
All because the CPI was flat in November.

BWAHAHAHAHA
BusKow
New contracts for SP and NQ come on this morning.
Peek Paper
QUOTE(summoner @ Dec 15 2006, 08:40 AM)
Here come the blowoff
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It's all that "sidelined money" the government keeps printing ...
summoner
Rusty futs lagging here
DrStool
Bonds are exploding of course, with yield down to 4.53 and dropping like a stone. I mentioned the other day the 5 month downtrend line at 4.65. It never quite got there. I think it will, but probably by going sideways to meet it. Then we could get that upside breakout and reversal of the trend.
K Wave Rider
Silver with helluva wedgie...should be a big one comin' real soon..
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