aussiebear
Dec 11 2007, 11:53 PM
aussiebear
Dec 11 2007, 11:56 PM
aussiebear
Dec 12 2007, 12:06 AM

Down today but with none of the drama of the US action. All Ords -1.2% led by Materials, -1.9% followed by Property Trusts -1.7%. There's actually a couple of green sectors, Healthcare +0.8% and IT +0.1%.
Big miners taking a hit: BHP -2.2% and RIO -2.5%. Golds also down although the volume is low: Newcrest -1.5%, Newmont -1.1% and Lihir -0.3%.
Oils not doing too badly: Woodside -0.4%, Santos +1.6% and Caltex +0.8%.
aussiebear
Dec 12 2007, 12:14 AM
German Investor Confidence Decline to 15-Year Low Dec. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Investor confidence in Germany dropped more than economists forecast in December, reaching the lowest level in almost 15 years, as rising credit costs dimmed the outlook for economic growth.
The Mannheim-based ZEW Center for European Economic Research said its index of investor and analyst expectations fell to minus 37.2, the lowest since January 1993, from minus 32.5 last month. Economists expected a decline to minus 34.5, the median of 41 forecasts in a Bloomberg News survey showed.
aussiebear
Dec 12 2007, 12:17 AM
Australian Consumer Confidence Rose 1.8%Dec. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Australian consumer confidence rose for the first month in three after the central bank left interest rates unchanged and voters elected a new government.
The sentiment index climbed 1.8 percent this month from November to a seasonally adjusted 112.5, according to a Westpac Banking Corp. and Melbourne Institute survey of 1,400 people released today in Sydney.
aussiebear
Dec 12 2007, 05:44 AM

All Ords moved up off the lows but the result was still a fairly dismal -0.9%. Materials and Property Trusts were equal downside leaders, -1.7% and there were four green sectors of which Healthcare had the most gain, +0.5%.
The big miners went down and stayed there: BHP -2.3% and RIO -3.1%. Golds perked up: Newcrest flat, Newmont -0.9%, Lihir +2.4%.
Oils did a roller coaster: Woodside +0.3%, Santos +1.6% and Caltex +0.3%.
Asian bourses recovering after an initial drop: China and Honkers -2.3%, Nikkers -0.6%.
Over to UK/Europe:


http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe
Phil Late Show
Dec 12 2007, 06:12 AM
Posted this on M2M... seems like it may bear repeating... not sure of the implications but it reeks of a potential stick-save attempt tomorrow.
QUOTE(Phil Late Show @ Dec 12 2007, 12:49 AM)
Cha cha cha WHAAAAAAAT THE
Fed set to revamp liquidity supportFed to overhaul provision of market liquidityQUOTE
The Federal Reserve is set to overhaul the way it provides liquidity support to financial markets, following a negative reaction to Tuesday’s interest rate cut.
US stocks fell sharply after the central bank cut rates by only 25 basis points to 4.25 per cent and failed to offer a clear signal of more to come.
The overhaul, which could be announced as early as Wednesday, is likely to take the shape of a new liquidity facility that will auction loans to banks. This would allow the Fed to provide liquidity directly to a large number of financial institutions against a wide range of collateral without the stigma of its existing discount window loans.
Edit: If this afternoon was yet another bear suck-in Fed BS blindside manoeuvre I'm gonna scream

cwd
Dec 12 2007, 07:03 AM
QUOTE(Phil Late Show @ Dec 12 2007, 01:12 AM)
Posted this on M2M... seems like it may bear repeating... not sure of the implications but it reeks of a potential stick-save attempt tomorrow.
QUOTE(Phil Late Show @ Dec 12 2007, 12:49 AM)
Cha cha cha WHAAAAAAAT THE
Fed set to revamp liquidity supportFed to overhaul provision of market liquidityQUOTE
The Federal Reserve is set to overhaul the way it provides liquidity support to financial markets, following a negative reaction to Tuesday’s interest rate cut.
US stocks fell sharply after the central bank cut rates by only 25 basis points to 4.25 per cent and failed to offer a clear signal of more to come.
The overhaul, which could be announced as early as Wednesday, is likely to take the shape of a new liquidity facility that will auction loans to banks. This would allow the Fed to provide liquidity directly to a large number of financial institutions against a wide range of collateral without the stigma of its existing discount window loans.
Edit: If this afternoon was yet another bear suck-in Fed BS blindside manoeuvre I'm gonna scream

shorty
Dec 12 2007, 08:44 AM
Throw all yer hard-earned money into quality AAA cash-cow dividend-paying blue-chip Safe and Guaranteed Chinese stock market investment securities at these bargain prices?
Hurry! Don't miss out!
alceringa
Dec 12 2007, 10:52 AM
QUOTE(Phil Late Show @ Dec 12 2007, 05:12 PM)
Posted this on M2M... seems like it may bear repeating... not sure of the implications but it reeks of a potential stick-save attempt tomorrow.
QUOTE(Phil Late Show @ Dec 12 2007, 12:49 AM)
Cha cha cha WHAAAAAAAT THE
Fed set to revamp liquidity supportFed to overhaul provision of market liquidityQUOTE
The Federal Reserve is set to overhaul the way it provides liquidity support to financial markets, following a negative reaction to Tuesday’s interest rate cut.
US stocks fell sharply after the central bank cut rates by only 25 basis points to 4.25 per cent and failed to offer a clear signal of more to come.
The overhaul, which could be announced as early as Wednesday, is likely to take the shape of a new liquidity facility that will auction loans to banks. This would allow the Fed to provide liquidity directly to a large number of financial institutions against a wide range of collateral without the stigma of its existing discount window loans.
Edit: If this afternoon was yet another bear suck-in Fed BS blindside manoeuvre I'm gonna scream

Well, I don't know what the implications are either, but did spend some time reading some about Central Bank Operations.
Bottom line, the big CB's, the FED, ECB, BOJ and BOE have different rules about which banks come to the Open Market Operations Party, what is acceptable collateral, which currencies they accept, how they settle accounts and on and on.
The market may panic/interpret this as desperation/etc by the Fed because it is "new" for the Fed.
But it's not "new" in the world of Central Banks.
Think might just be the Fed opening up "the system" beyond the limits of the Gang of 21. Other Central Banks are already more flexible about this type of thing than the Fed.
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 12:45 PM
The new plan is to extend, expand and bend over backwards to take crap on to the Fed's books.
Hey, it worked in 1999, so it should work fine now, right ? right ? Bueller ?
(just one little problem. In '99 it was just a year-end funding issue. This time it's more of a solvency issue)
bondtrader
Dec 12 2007, 12:55 PM
Doc, Someone refers to me as a moran and now I can't post ? What is up with that ?!
Mothership
Dec 12 2007, 12:58 PM
It's not only the markets experiencing a wild ride
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/7139910.stmA taxi driver in Germany was left shaken and stirred after handing his keys over to seven-times Formula One champion Michael Schumacher.
alceringa
Dec 12 2007, 01:10 PM
Time to review the Fed's Borker/Dealer list, now down to just 20
BNP Paribas Securities Corp.
Banc of America Securities LLC
Barclays Capital Inc.
Bear, Stearns & Co., Inc.
Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.
Citigroup Global Markets Inc.
Countrywide Securities Corporation
Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
Daiwa Securities America Inc.
Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein Securities LLC.
Goldman, Sachs & Co.
Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.
J. P. Morgan Securities Inc.
Lehman Brothers Inc.
Merrill Lynch Government Securities Inc.
Mizuho Securities USA Inc.
Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated
UBS Securities LLC.
By my quick count 8 of the 20 are subsidiaries of foreign banks.
Phil Late Show
Dec 12 2007, 01:36 PM
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 01:52 PM
Big time reversal in credit risk indicators... 1m LIBOR dwn to 5.10%... 2yr swap spread down to 94bps.
Market likey unveiled plan so far.
EZ_Money
Dec 12 2007, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(Sudaca @ Dec 12 2007, 05:45 AM)
The new plan is to extend, expand and bend over backwards to take crap on to the Fed's books.
Hey, it worked in 1999, so it should work fine now, right ? right ? Bueller ?
(just one little problem. In '99 it was just a year-end funding issue. This time it's more of a solvency issue)
A new category in the Fed RP reports: "Sh*t-paper Collateral"?
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 01:57 PM
I think this plan is going to be enough to solve the year-end funding component of the current problem, but it falls short of solving the central issue..
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:00 PM
In a fiat world anything is possible...... again once confidence and perception are lost nothing matters anymore..until then let the games continue
EZ_Money
Dec 12 2007, 02:01 PM
Looks like Bendover's Jewelry and Loan is now open for business.
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:01 PM
No followthru in Yen, and Gold held the line and perking back up, and actually looking ready rock-n-roll to the upside now...
May have been one-day wonder to the downside in the indexes yesterday...or...we could be about to decouple finally....
Anyway, am long the Gold, and wait n see on the indexes....
Gold could be about to go ballistic here.....
cwd
Dec 12 2007, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 12 2007, 08:10 AM)
Time to review the Fed's Borker/Dealer list, now down to just 20
BNP Paribas Securities Corp.
Banc of America Securities LLC
Barclays Capital Inc.
Bear, Stearns & Co., Inc.
Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.
Citigroup Global Markets Inc.
Countrywide Securities Corporation
Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
Daiwa Securities America Inc.
Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein Securities LLC.
Goldman, Sachs & Co.
Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.
J. P. Morgan Securities Inc.
Lehman Brothers Inc.
Merrill Lynch Government Securities Inc.
Mizuho Securities USA Inc.
Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated
UBS Securities LLC.
By my quick count 8 of the 20 are subsidiaries of foreign banks.
Who got taken out?
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:03 PM
*DJ Central Bank Forex Swap Lines Total $24 Bln For ECB, SNB
*DJ First New Fed Auction Will Be $20 Bln 28-Day Funds Monday
*DJ Fed Aims To Boost Liquidity With New Auction Facility
*DJ 2nd Fed Term Auction Will Be $20 Bln Dec 20, 35-Day Funds
*DJ Two Other Fed Term Auctions Scheduled For Jan 14, 28
*DJ Fed, BOE, ECB, SNB Set Up Forex Swap Lines For Six Months
cwd
Dec 12 2007, 02:03 PM
QUOTE(Sudaca @ Dec 12 2007, 08:52 AM)
Big time reversal in credit risk indicators... 1m LIBOR dwn to 5.10%... 2yr swap spread down to 94bps.
Market likey unveiled plan so far.
Down from what?
MrHanky
Dec 12 2007, 02:03 PM
futures just spiked up again...any reason?
Q's up over a buck
anoscope
Dec 12 2007, 02:04 PM
holding for SPY 152.50, then trailing stop. on close will move back to sds for ride down to fill the gap and probably more. then wash, rinse, repeat.
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:04 PM
*DJ BOE Will Accept Wider Range Of Collateral At Repo
*DJ BOE To Increase Amount Of 3-Month Funds On Offer Over Yr-End
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:05 PM
Can you say MORAL HAZARD?
patents
Dec 12 2007, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(EZ_Money @ Dec 12 2007, 08:55 AM)
QUOTE(Sudaca @ Dec 12 2007, 05:45 AM)
The new plan is to extend, expand and bend over backwards to take crap on to the Fed's books.
Hey, it worked in 1999, so it should work fine now, right ? right ? Bueller ?
(just one little problem. In '99 it was just a year-end funding issue. This time it's more of a solvency issue)
A new category in the Fed RP reports: "Sh*t-paper Collateral"?

Will not appear on any of the Fed's books. WIll be offshored to a Caribbean entity. Why should htye be any different than others of the bankers.
anoscope
Dec 12 2007, 02:09 PM
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potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:09 PM
*DJ Swiss SNB Acting With BoE, ECB, Fed, Bank Of Canada
*DJ Swiss SNB: Action Aims At Easing Pressure In Funding Mkts
alceringa
Dec 12 2007, 02:10 PM
From Fed's site........
Effective November 30, 2007, Nomura Securities International, Inc. has withdrawn its name from the list of primary dealers.
patents
Dec 12 2007, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(K Wave Rider @ Dec 12 2007, 09:05 AM)
Can you say MORAL HAZARD?
The problem is the set of morals in the administration is different that what most would consider. Thus, in their definition there is no moral hazard except if they did not protect their friends.
EZ_Money
Dec 12 2007, 02:13 PM
The new linkages between the US and European CBs smells of globalization.
Now that they're chaining themselves together, if one goes down, they all do?
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 02:13 PM
Wow... central banks unite
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 02:14 PM
holy crap futures went hogwild
Sudaca
Dec 12 2007, 02:17 PM
2yr swap spreads now down 20bps.. from 107 to 87
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:17 PM
QUOTE(Sudaca @ Dec 12 2007, 08:13 AM)
Wow... central banks unite
wonder twin powers activate. form of..........
patents
Dec 12 2007, 02:17 PM
Suddenly I feel much more comfortable stroking my physical precious metals. While there may be no inflation in the future, I feel better with the idea that physical gold is a store of value with what the central banks are doing. We shall see.
Lemur
Dec 12 2007, 02:18 PM
Huge pop in futures. Ben trying t screw the shorts again?
Big anti-dollar & Gold moves also.
Another wild day at the casino.
patents
Dec 12 2007, 02:21 PM
One good thing about the central banks taking on the toxic waste is that likely they do not have to mark anything to market since it is collateral and not a owned asset.
The power of accounting and the double entry system.
alceringa
Dec 12 2007, 02:21 PM
So has Bernanke passed his first big test?
Yesterday he looked like an unresponsive idiot asleep at the wheel.
Today he's unvieled as a f'ing genius.
Co-ordinated world wide liquidity attack.
F'ing brilliant, truely.
Who's going to fade Bernanke now?
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:22 PM
If they take out yesterdays' highs in da indexes, would no be a good idea to be short....
The rules of da game may have just been changed....
Whether you like da rules or not, got to play by 'em to survive.....
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:22 PM
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 12 2007, 08:21 AM)
So has Bernanke passed his first big test?
Yesterday he looked like an unresponsive idiot asleep at the wheel.
Today he's unvieled as a f'ing genius.
Co-ordinated world wide liquidity attack.
F'ing brilliant, truely.
Who's going to fade Bernanke now?
what a bear trap......
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:23 PM
Now...if this pops fails................
potatohead
Dec 12 2007, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(K Wave Rider @ Dec 12 2007, 08:22 AM)
If they take out yesterdays' highs in da indexes, would no be a good idea to be short....
The rules of da game may have just been changed....
Whether you like da rules or not, got to play by 'em to survive.....
could not have said it any better....thanks K WAVE
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:25 PM
Yen getting hammered...say bye bye to yesterday's pivot low
K Wave Rider
Dec 12 2007, 02:27 PM
QUOTE(alceringa @ Dec 12 2007, 08:21 AM)
So has Bernanke passed his first big test?
Yesterday he looked like an unresponsive idiot asleep at the wheel.
Today he's unvieled as a f'ing genius.
Co-ordinated world wide liquidity attack.
F'ing brilliant, truely.
Who's going to fade Bernanke now?
They don't call him Helicopter Ben fer nuthin'
patents
Dec 12 2007, 02:27 PM
Will the Fed write the checks to pay for all the mowing of the lawns, upkeep and taxes on all the foreclosed homes that are at the bottom of the toxic waste food chain? Will they take on the responsibility for all the defaulted properties?
Pity the poor municipalities.
crooked_analyst
Dec 12 2007, 02:29 PM
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