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DrStool
Wow, look at those dung piles. Both bull and bear.
Private Skidmark
HUI closes at the highs. Up over 8% from its low for the day. cool.gif
Jimi
PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Foreclosures and default notices skyrocketed to record peaks in California and the Bay Area in the fourth quarter of 2007, according to a report released Tuesday. The information was a fresh reminder that the slumping real estate market is continuing to have a serious impact on homeowners, particularly those with risky subprime mortgages.

Lenders repossessed 31,676 residences in California in the October-November-December period, according to DataQuick Information Systems, a La Jolla research firm. That was a dramatic 421.2 percent increase from 6,078 in the year-ago quarter.

In the Bay Area, foreclosures rose an equally stunning 482.5 percent to 4,573 in the fourth quarter, compared with 785 a year ago. Contra Costa County, with 1,558 foreclosures, up 533.3 percent from a year ago, had the most, followed by Alameda County with 1,026 (a 514.4 percent increase) and Solano County with 704 (up 528.6 percent).

"Foreclosure activity is closely tied to a decline in home values," DataQuick President Marshall Prentice said in a statement. "With today's depreciation, an increasing number of homeowners find themselves owing more on a property than its market value, setting the stage for default if there is mortgage payment shock, a job loss or the owner needs to move."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...UJN7I.DTL&tsp=1
ChicagoBear
Beautiful! $10b and 75 bps and we end the day down. Added to RIO short in last 15 minutes. Today was a victory for bears.
Lesser Fool
Is there a historical precedent where the Fed cut loose a big one, with the implied promise of more, and still the markets tanked?
Mies van der Rump
Insana is BEGGING for bailout of MBI/AMBAC..he looks, well, weepy. I wonder if his fund is imploding.
Charmin
QUOTE(Private Skidmark @ Jan 22 2008, 04:05 PM)
HUI closes at the highs. Up over 8% from its low for the day. cool.gif
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elh
I think you all just witnessed blackmail.

These assholes could have sold off in an orderly way, but they decided to trigger a crisis to get what they wanted with a lower rate cut.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
cwd
QUOTE(Mies van der Rump @ Jan 22 2008, 04:11 PM)
Insana is BEGGING for bailout of MBI/AMBAC..he looks, well, weepy.  I wonder if his fund is imploding.
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At least some of his BUDs' funds are. laugh.gif
joe3pack
bullvision, in the last hour, had a caption indicating "buying opportunity." but they forgot to tell me when to eat, sheet, and breathe. huh.gif
mdporter
QUOTE(Jimi @ Jan 22 2008, 02:06 PM)
PST SAN FRANCISCO -- Foreclosures and default notices skyrocketed to record peaks in California and the Bay Area in the fourth quarter of 2007, according to a report released Tuesday. The information was a fresh reminder that the slumping real estate market is continuing to have a serious impact on homeowners, particularly those with risky subprime mortgages.

Lenders repossessed 31,676 residences in California in the October-November-December period, according to DataQuick Information Systems, a La Jolla research firm. That was a dramatic 421.2 percent increase from 6,078 in the year-ago quarter.

In the Bay Area, foreclosures rose an equally stunning 482.5 percent to 4,573 in the fourth quarter, compared with 785 a year ago. Contra Costa County, with 1,558 foreclosures, up 533.3 percent from a year ago, had the most, followed by Alameda County with 1,026 (a 514.4 percent increase) and Solano County with 704 (up 528.6 percent).

"Foreclosure activity is closely tied to a decline in home values," DataQuick President Marshall Prentice said in a statement. "With today's depreciation, an increasing number of homeowners find themselves owing more on a property than its market value, setting the stage for default if there is mortgage payment shock, a job loss or the owner needs to move."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...UJN7I.DTL&tsp=1
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In Campbell CA I am starting to see the marginal borrowers blow up and are trying to sell their homes. This is going to be an interesting selling season coming up. Silicon Valley has been pretty strong but the cracks are starting to show up everywhere.
joe3pack
instead of lowering interest rates to zillo or close to zillo, why not lower them to sub-zillo? that way the banks would have a legal right to extract money from your account every day of the year. solvency problems (well, the pigmen's, anyway) solved!
Bungster
No crash....

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Jimi
Crapple just took one.
Mies van der Rump
AAPL meets/beats but warns for Q2.

Edit: guiding down by 500 to 750 million depending on analyst estimate
DrStool
QUOTE(joe3pack @ Jan 22 2008, 04:20 PM)
bullvision, in the last hour, had a caption indicating "buying opportunity." but they forgot to tell me when to eat, sheet, and breathe.  huh.gif
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Bombs away boys. Anybody see the QQQQ here? down .88 since the bell.
mdporter
So with the Fed lowering interest rates again to 3.5%, does that mean there is less inflation right now?


I saw another jump in food prices at the grocery store last weekend. The real world is becoming far different than the FedWorld.

I wish there could be an honest discussion of inflation on the MSM. I've seen bits and pieces but nobody comes close to getting it right.
Jetlag
Grapple down 18 bucks 12% on gloomberg tv.
mdporter
QUOTE(Jetlag @ Jan 22 2008, 02:36 PM)
Grapple down 18 bucks 12% on gloomberg tv.
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Wow!


At some point GOOG is going to take a huge hit as their business model meets reality.
DrStool
Ah. it's all apple, all the time. was down 20, only 15 now.
Bungster
QUOTE(DrStool @ Jan 22 2008, 04:35 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Bombs away boys. Anybody see the QQQQ here? down .88 since the bell.
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Added some shorts at the close with the NDX unable to attain support at 1810....I'm so excited I'm starting to drool.... tongue.gif

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Jimi
Crapple took out today's low.

Chuckle.
DrStool
now 13.

what a crazy market. There's just no depth.
joe3pack
bought UNG on 12/28 for 35.09. got stopped out today @ 37.86. should've sold when it failed to crack resistance in the 40-41 range, but my stops were loose.

o, vell. a profit's a profit.
Schonthaler

One of my favorite's, Dr. Marc Faber, said (in 2007) that when he sees the high fliers like AAPL down 70, 80 or 90 percent from their high, then he will consider that a buy signal for the overall US market.

Boy, don't you know when he said that he got lots of laughs from a good many folks. And maybe a few tomates thrown at the Boob Tube.

laugh.gif
Bungster
They saved the CRASH today...but I still hear that hissing sound of the air being let out of the market... wink.gif

I wonder how Paulson/Bernanke will feel tomorrow???

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Jimi
S&P futures are indicated at 1301.
I guessed a close for today of 1301.
I want some Fig Newtons.
Bungster
QUOTE(Jimi @ Jan 22 2008, 05:00 PM)
S&P futures are indicated at 1301.
I guessed a close for today of 1301.
I want some Fig Newtons.
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linrom
On the PEI chart, 2008.225 is marked as a low. What does the fractional date .225 stands for?

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Bungster
QUOTE(linrom @ Jan 22 2008, 05:19 PM)
On the PEI chart, 2008.225 is marked as a low. What does the fractional date .225 stands for?

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It stands for a fraction of a year....so 82 days or the 22nd of March. This chart may paint a BIG PICTURE...but the details seem to have little correlation....
Jetlag
QUOTE(linrom @ Jan 22 2008, 05:19 PM)
On the PEI chart, 2008.225 is marked as a low. What does the fractional date .225 stands for?

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.225 puts the low at late March.
I don't know which calendar Armstrong used to calculate the exact dates (that's why PEI cycle dates that people cite don't always match).

As you can witness on this board. rolleyes.gif
Jimi
.225 * 365 Days = 82.125 Days.

January = 31
February = 28
Ergo, March 23rd, you want to buy.
But not hold into 2011.
cwd
Louise Yamada on CNBS. I think we are a long way from the bottom, It looks like 2000 after the first break. They won't have her back any time soon. laugh.gif
Brisbane Bear
David Tice said similar things on Gloomberg.

The talking heads on Gloomberg and Crapvision really flounder when the markets tank.

It is so funny to watch.

We need our sugar coated, rose coloured view of the world all day,everyday otherwise we would all be on Prozac.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
fxfox
QUOTE(Jimi @ Jan 22 2008, 04:31 PM)
Crapple just took one.
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"Mmmm! Goddamn, Jimmie! This is some serious gourmet shit! Usually, me and Vince would be happy with some freeze-dried Taster's Choice right, but he springs this serious GOURMET shit on us! What flavor is this?"

and Jimmy said: "it's CRAPPLE!"

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Bungster
Here's an article you might want to read! ohmy.gif

"The Greatest Bait And Switch Of All Time."

A "HORROR SHOW" Of Epic Proportions


http://www.decisionpoint.com/TAC/DUARTE.html

If this is true then we have a ways to go.......
Jetlag
QUOTE(Brisbane Bear @ Jan 22 2008, 05:49 PM)
David Tice said similar things on Gloomberg.

The talking heads on Gloomberg and Crapvision really flounder when the markets tank.

It is so funny to watch.

We need our sugar coated, rose coloured view of the world all day,everyday otherwise we would all be on Prozac.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I liked Tice's "several thousand points" correction claim. ph34r.gif laugh.gif
Mies van der Rump
OMG, Cramer is absolutely in heaven right now. He is so smug i can barely stand it...lol.

"all those people who are stuck in reset mortgages will be able to refinance now"...

Uh, yaaaah, about that theory.

He also just, literally, laughed saying

"today, the banks will now make more money due to this cut which means they will have EARNINGS. YOU will make less from having your money in a savings account"
The End
QUOTE(Jimi @ Jan 22 2008, 05:27 PM)
.225 * 365 Days = 82.125 Days.

January = 31
February = 28
Ergo, March 23rd, you want to buy.
But not hold into 2011.
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It's leap year. Feb. has 29 days, FWIW. smile.gif
elh
QUOTE(Bungster @ Jan 22 2008, 03:53 PM)
Here's an article you might want to read!  ohmy.gif

"The Greatest Bait And Switch Of All Time."

A "HORROR SHOW" Of Epic Proportions


http://www.decisionpoint.com/TAC/DUARTE.html

If this is true then we have a ways to go.......
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David Mack posted that original Bass letter this past summer.

fxfox
QUOTE(Bungster @ Jan 22 2008, 05:53 PM)
Here's an article you might want to read!  ohmy.gif

"The Greatest Bait And Switch Of All Time."

A "HORROR SHOW" Of Epic Proportions


http://www.decisionpoint.com/TAC/DUARTE.html

If this is true then we have a ways to go.......
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nice article!

I think that oil will collapse and with it all those alt energy crap stocks. The solar stuff is the dot.bomb bubble of today, some will even go out of business, others will trade as penny stocks.
The End
Heath Ledger is dead. RIP.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005132/bio
Brisbane Bear
the question is this.(in keeping with the stool flavour...lol)

Does the market need an enema,colonic irrigation or a tummy tuck operation?

Great cleansing after 20 years

THIS is the great cleansing.

Every 20 years or so we need one to hose away all the crud that's built up in the market - the excess, the over-ripe values built on sand and fantasy - to de-spiv, albeit inevitably and, sadly, only temporarily - the financial system and to teach another generation of young masters of the universe that greed and slickness do not add to substance and sustainability.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0...76-3122,00.html
Slappy
QUOTE(Bungster @ Jan 22 2008, 05:53 PM)
Here's an article you might want to read!  ohmy.gif

"The Greatest Bait And Switch Of All Time."

A "HORROR SHOW" Of Epic Proportions


http://www.decisionpoint.com/TAC/DUARTE.html

If this is true then we have a ways to go.......
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HORROR SHOW!



HORROR SHOW!



LIPS! I WANT LIPS! GIVE US LIPS!

cwd
QUOTE(elh @ Jan 22 2008, 06:10 PM)
David Mack posted that original Bass letter this past summer.
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The original biggrin.gif

http://www.dealbreaker.com/images/pdf/HaymanJuly07.pdf
potatohead
I am surprised no one picked up on this......

For the Pigmen, how could they kill the markets while at the same time keep the US public from panicking....

answer:
destroy Europe on a US holiday, cream the S&P futures but before the open on Tuesday come in with a FED announement and assblast this market from the open.

Results:

If you are the investing public and you happened to miss the first 1/2 hour of trading there was no need to panic or be concerned. The market ended down a fraction of what it should have and at the same time the public has no reason to worry.

AMAZING

its all about confidence and perception
shorty
hey, I heard Crapple had good earnings!

everybody loves the iPod

and the iPhone is so very very cool

just so damn cool

lemme pull up a stock quote here and see how much that CONpany stock is soaring after hours, probably up Big-Time, it's such a popular Winner, gotta be rockin', it's so cool.......lemme see.....here it is....

ohmy.gif

what an absolute POS! smile.gif
linrom
Interesting chart. It shows how far price moved in relation to its 9 week average. It's at level not seen since 2001-2002, form which SnP500 bounced.

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prancing_cow
QUOTE(shorty @ Jan 22 2008, 04:54 PM)
hey, I heard Crapple had good earnings!

everybody loves the iPod

and the iPhone is so very very cool

just so damn cool

lemme pull up a stock quote here and see how much that CONpany stock is soaring after hours, probably up Big-Time, it's such a popular Winner, gotta be rockin', it's so cool.......lemme see.....here it is....

ohmy.gif

what an absolute POS! smile.gif
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shorty last night you were saying that you had got reamed by your longs I am hoping you recovered some.
shorty
QUOTE(prancing_cow @ Jan 22 2008, 05:02 PM)
shorty last night you were saying that you had got reamed by your longs I am hoping you recovered some.
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yup, held 'em all

bought TASR at the close, it could rocket to 20 when they get huge order

maybe 30
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