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DrStool
This is how an illiquid broken system behaves. Will only get worse, I think.
tdultima
short term indicators turn down today

shit hits the fan starting next week
potatohead
for those who are long.........

from CArl Futia

E-mini Update
I'm still long from 1284 this morning but I want to see the market close at 1281 or higher. Otherwise I'll get out and try again next week.

posted by Carl Futia at 12:44 PM permalink 0 comments

Long the e-minis
I just bought June e-minis at 1284 at the level of yesterday's low. I will junk this position if the market shows any preference for trading below the 1270 level.
GregFokker
Nervous for the price of oil - just managed to get pretty good premium shorting USO puts that expire on Thursday of next week. Why someone would pay for puts that are 10% OTM with 4 days to expiration is beyond me- unless there's a slaughter planned for the oil market next week ph34r.gif
Charmin
QUOTE(tdultima @ Mar 14 2008, 03:01 PM)
short term indicators turn down today

shit hits the fan starting next week
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Maybe we'll wake up Monday to China unpegging from the dollar.
Private Skidmark
With action like today's, it's nice to just relax and kick back after the close. biggrin.gif
tdultima
don't like the volatility?

just do what i do: short and hold laugh.gif
fxfox
QUOTE(potatohead @ Mar 14 2008, 03:03 PM)
for those who are long.........

from CArl Futia

E-mini Update
I'm still long from 1284 this morning but I want to see the market close at 1281 or higher. Otherwise I'll get out and try again next week.
 
posted by Carl Futia at 12:44 PM permalink 0 comments 

Long the e-minis
I just bought June e-minis at 1284 at the level of yesterday's low. I will junk this position if the market shows any preference for trading below the 1270 level.
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they are all effed! laugh.gif

monday morning will tell it. DAX right now directly at 6400, either it marks here a tripple bottom on the daily, which would be very strong sup afterwards, or it breaks down. I guess it breaks down, cause 6400 is technically a non-levle, there is nothing, no fibo, no important EMA, nothing.

Does someone really beleive that the FED goes full steam here to defend the 38 fibo, i mean the one from 2002 low in S&P which is at 1267? Never ever. They need their firepower to defend the 62 fibo or even when S&P tries to go below 1000.

I can imagine seeing just 2 weeks from now 1175 in S&P which is the 1175. I really can imagine that, what speaks against it?
fxfox
QUOTE(GregFokker @ Mar 14 2008, 03:04 PM)
Nervous for the price of oil - just managed to get pretty good premium shorting USO puts that expire on Thursday of next week.  Why someone would pay for puts that are 10% OTM with 4 days to expiration is beyond me- unless there's a slaughter planned for the oil market next week  ph34r.gif
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why not? 110 is definitely not a market price, it only wnet up so much because every hedgie in the world is long oil, let some of them blow up over the weekend and early next week and oil will get punch IN DA FACE!
GregFokker
QUOTE(fxfox @ Mar 14 2008, 03:23 PM)
why not? 110 is definitely not a market price, it only wnet up so much because every hedgie in the world is long oil, let some of them blow up over the weekend and early next week and oil will get punch IN DA FACE!
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I'm willing to own this stuff, even at a loss for awhile. I've been long since 1999-2000. Last time I checked, small specs were shorting oil at 100. Bummer for them. They're not making more of the stuff, and China wants theirs. The charts are toppy, but that's what bull markets are all about. For anything more than a trade, the only place to be is long this stuff.

Anyhoo, I hope I don't have to get exercised on those short putz ph34r.gif
fxfox
USD/JPY closed below 100

USD/CHF closed below 1.00, that means for the first time in history Swiss Franc is worth more than the US Dollar.
Bungster
Where did bondtrader go? sad.gif I entered a small dong at the close for the NDX. It is at support and it may be a very short trade.... laugh.gif We closed at 1713 and support is at 1710 or so...

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Private Skidmark
QUOTE(fxfox @ Mar 14 2008, 03:43 PM)
USD/JPY closed below 100

USD/CHF closed below 1.00, that means for the first time in history Swiss Franc is worth more than the US Dollar.
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It's all because we took the bells off our cows. wink.gif
Bungster
Bush says they will take "appropriate steps" to stablize the markets....ARE THEY GOING TO CLOSE THE MARKETS? rolleyes.gif

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...gh7M&refer=home

No worries...he's on top of it!

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Sudaca
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Bungster
QUOTE(Sudaca @ Mar 14 2008, 04:21 PM)
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Charmin
Scary thought for the FXI's death cross this month for the 50dma slipping under the 200. Some would say watch the FXI and we will follow.

http://www.StockSharePublishing.com/ChartL..._1205530208.png
patents
QUOTE(fxfox @ Mar 14 2008, 03:19 PM)
they are all effed!  laugh.gif

monday morning will tell it. DAX right now directly at 6400, either it marks here a tripple bottom on the daily, which would be very strong sup afterwards, or it breaks down. I guess it breaks down, cause 6400 is technically a non-levle, there is nothing, no fibo, no important EMA, nothing.

Does someone really beleive that the FED goes full steam here to defend the 38 fibo, i mean the one from 2002 low in S&P which is at 1267? Never ever. They need their firepower to defend the 62 fibo or even when S&P tries to go below 1000.

I can imagine seeing just 2 weeks from now 1175 in S&P which is the 1175. I really can imagine that, what speaks against it?
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I agree with you. I am placing my money on the market going down into the beginning of April until they trot out the excuse that it is time for everyone to add IRA money before taxes are due on April 15.

With that said, I am a little apprehensive with end of quarter approaching this month.
MrHanky
Hey guys and gals....Been in hiding for a few months.Quit my job at wynn las vegas and have been working twice as many hours now but making nice bucks.

Many of you will think I'm insane but......I bought a forclosure here in north vegas and I close in about 12 more days.I need a home to live in and rental prices have been going throgh the roof.
The home was originally sold for 377k in 2005,Then sold for 454k in 2006.I just bought it from the bank for 250k.The home is 2819sf and has upgraded everything awesome views and even a 3 car garage....So I am buying for about $89 SF.

If i'm way wrong,the home can easily rent for 2k or so a month.

Homes that are priced right here are flying (mostly forclosures)....Looked at about 45-50 homes,all recieved anywhere from 5 to as many as 44 bids.Pending sales on forclosures have tripled in the last 45 days.There are 16 forclosed homes in my development,10 are under contact in the last 30 days.Anything not priced correctly will never sell and will eventually drop hard to more reasonable prices here.

I may be early but 130,000 new jobs here in the next 2 years.I am hoping the price I paid per square foot will be a decent place to buy.Demand should at least stabilize here in las vegas around the $80-$100 Sf level.

I have stayed away from the stock market and have stayed in my CD's I locked in last summer.Hope everyone is making money,it's too stressful to trade these days!

Here is a pic of the home and a pic of my backyard view of mount charleston.....



hadjin
Congrats on your home Mr. Hanky. Enjoy it for many years.
pegasus
Congratulations Mr Hanky, I think you did well. The house and particularly the view is spectacular.


-Pegasus
prancing_cow
QUOTE(MrHanky @ Mar 14 2008, 02:33 PM)
Hey guys and gals....Been in hiding for a few months.Quit my job at wynn las vegas and have been working twice as many hours now but making nice bucks.

Many of you will think I'm insane but......I bought a forclosure here in north vegas and I close in about 12 more days.I need a home to live in and rental prices have been going throgh the roof.
  The home was originally sold for 377k in 2005,Then sold for 454k in 2006.I just bought it from the bank for 250k.The home is 2819sf and has upgraded everything awesome views and even a 3 car garage....So I am buying for about $89 SF.

If i'm way wrong,the home can easily rent for 2k or so a month.

Homes that are priced right here are flying (mostly forclosures)....Looked at about 45-50 homes,all recieved anywhere from 5 to as many as 44 bids.Pending sales on forclosures have tripled in the last 45 days.There are 16 forclosed homes in my development,10 are under contact in the last 30 days.Anything not priced correctly will never sell and will eventually drop hard to more reasonable prices here.

I may be early but 130,000 new jobs here in the next 2 years.I am hoping the price I paid per square foot will be a decent place to buy.Demand should at least stabilize here in las vegas around the $80-$100 Sf level.

I have stayed away from the stock market and have stayed in my CD's I locked in last summer.Hope everyone is making money,it's too stressful to trade these days!

Here is a pic of the home and a pic of my backyard view of mount charleston.....
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the house looks huge.

how do yo know those 130,000 new jobs Las Vegas in the next 2 years will pan out?
Since I got to this board I do not believe in any prediction/study/research done by anybody - nobody knows anything, it seems like they write what they want.
lucy
Nice, Mr hanky. First and foremost, it is your HOME. Goal was always to buy early and pay off for retirement. When we started counting our homes as investments we got a little crazy. Too illiquid to really count like it like you would savings, brokerage accounts, etc. We redid a Katrina house, who knows what it is "worth", never had it appraised. It's home with a lovely view of the gulf and marsh. Mississippi, not anywhere near the Big Easy
Drano
QUOTE(Bungster @ Mar 14 2008, 03:53 PM)
Bush says they will take "appropriate steps" to stablize the markets....ARE THEY GOING TO CLOSE THE MARKETS?  rolleyes.gif

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...gh7M&refer=home

No worries...he's on top of it!



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So is Doc. (photo courtesy Sudaca)

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Drano
QUOTE(GregFokker @ Mar 14 2008, 03:36 PM)

Anyhoo, I hope I don't have to get exercised on those short putz  ph34r.gif
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If what I think is going to happen to oil actually does happen, you might be left with a very short putz. ph34r.gif
mdporter
This one left a stain


Bungster
Congrads Mr. Hanky! That's funny, one of my best friends is a dealer at the Wynn there in Las Vegas. He's very tired of the trade and plans to quit within the year. At $89/sq-ft that is very reasonable...and it's YOUR HOME. I'm a little green with envy... smile.gif

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shorty
"We are facing a potential black hole for all financial markets,'' said Neil MacKinnon, chief economist at London-based hedge fund ECU Group, which manages $2 billion in assets. "This is being labeled as perhaps the worst financial and banking crisis since the Great Depression. While that sounds fairly apocalyptic, I think it is a realistic assessment of what is happening at the moment.''

The so- called TED spread increased to 1.58 percentage points today from 0.78 percentage point on Feb. 14. ohmy.gif

The two-year note's yield fell 14 basis points, or 0.14 percentage point, to 1.48 percent. ohmy.gif

Demand for the shortest-term government debt pushed the rate on three-month bills down to 1.17 percent, the lowest since June 2004. ohmy.gif
shorty
heck if Uncle Sam can borrow at 1% mebbe he should grab a quick few $Trillion and try his luck bottom-dongin' some CDO's laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
4shzl
Our "friends" on the other side of the pond are just lapping this story up.

I wonder how images like this resonate in Beijing and Riyadh? I mean how stupid do you have to be to keep lending billions to a country that allows this to happen to its citizens seven months before a national election? By this summer, it should painfully obvious that foreign creditors are going to be on the top of nearly every politician's hit list. And why not? These are the folks who provided the wherewithal to keep Wall Street's rip-off artists in business long after they would otherwise have imploded. How much longer before the mandarins in Asia and the oily ones in the GCC decide to cut their losses?
mdporter
QUOTE(shorty @ Mar 14 2008, 04:30 PM)
"We are facing a potential black hole for all financial markets,'' said Neil MacKinnon, chief economist at London-based hedge fund ECU Group, which manages $2 billion in assets. "This is being labeled as perhaps the worst financial and banking crisis since the Great Depression. While that sounds fairly apocalyptic, I think it is a realistic assessment of what is happening at the moment.''

The so- called TED spread increased to 1.58 percentage points today from 0.78 percentage point on Feb. 14.  ohmy.gif

The two-year note's yield fell 14 basis points, or 0.14 percentage point, to 1.48 percent. ohmy.gif

Demand for the shortest-term government debt pushed the rate on three-month bills down to 1.17 percent, the lowest since June 2004.  ohmy.gif

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The question is... how many investment banks can the Fed try to save?
mdporter
Hanky,

Congrats on your purchase! Hope everything works out for you. $89 a square foot is a dream price out here in CA.
jickiss
jickiss is back!



jickiss is back!

and

Dear Mr. Hanky,

your jickiss says Bravo! to you for securing a large home in a very good area out West.

FWIW,

your jickiss suggests making sure that you have the very best Security Alarms and Devices installed, merely to feel safe. The feeling of being safe is worth its own weight in gold.

second,

Become politically active, and become known to all of the Local pols. Also, try to get to know all of your neighbours. somehow, your jickiss is certain that in so doing you will enhance your own sense of well-being.

maybe you will run for office someday.

what the US needs is for real people to dig in and Do Something! Set out to become the Local that others turn to.....it will pay in the long run.

The view presented is superb! Think how many morons are trapped in NYC million doolar walk ups where the only view is the other wall of a near-by building. your jickiss thinks that you win on that Ratio Trade hands down!

all the best to you, indeed!

jickiss!!!!!!!
Jimi
QUOTE(mdporter @ Mar 14 2008, 07:12 PM)
Hanky,

Congrats on your purchase! Hope everything works out for you. $89 a square foot is a dream price out here in CA.
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What he said.

Congrats to you and enjoy it and Vegas!
plop_plop
About a week ago, someone asked about the Vancouver Real Estate market historically. Here is a great compilation of quotes from the early and late 1980s, with comments added as to when the real price would once again reach the bubble heights. Here is the link.

QUOTE
A flash from the past :

1. "Price stability, rather than decline, would be expected for most of the housing stock . . . since underlying home ownership demand remains strong due to continued high immigration." (Frank Clayton, January 18th 1981 in the Sun. link The market crashed by about 50% over the following year. )

2. Renaud said he thinks that the trend to prices for houses has been broken by a temporary lull and that by [next year] or so prices will be equal to or greater than peak prices. (Claude Renaud, VP of Mortgage Insurance Canada on April 14, 1982. link The market took 26 quarters (over 6 years) to regain its peak in real terms.)

3. "To those who are waiting for Vancouver house prices to collapse, I can only advise them not to hold their breath . . . Unless there is a major recession or significant depopulation, house prices are unlikely to drop significantly." (Jerry Jackman, VP Royal Lepage, November 18, 1988 in the Vancouver Sun. link In 1989, prices started to drop - with an eventual 30% or so drop. Real prices did not attain these heights again for 58 quarters, or around 15 years.)

4. "We are definitely in a transition market in areas such as the West Side, Vancouver East, and Burnaby . . . it is too early to tell if the market will stall." (Jerry Jackman, April 20th 1989 in the Province. link Prices did not recover in real terms until 15 years later.)

5. "It is unlikely that prices will decline significantly." (JJ again, July 18th 1989 in the Sun. link)

6. "The whole world wants Vancouver because everybody is moving here now and everything points up, up, up." (Realtor David Goodman, December, 1989 in the Sun. link The market did not reach these heights again for 15 years.)

7. " . . .no one is panicking over the west side housing market and he insists that it has simply 'normalized'." (Jerry Jackman, January 27th 1990 quoted in the Sun. link West-side prices fell by 40% in the next 2 years.)

8. "I can't see prices reversing themselves there [in the west side] because it is still a very desirable place to live." (Same as above.)

9. "The market is entering a more 'normal' phase." (REBGV president Brian Calder, Feb 2, 1990 in the Sun. link If normal means that it takes 15 years to recover, then 'normal' it was.)

10. "A BC Central Credit Union newsletter released Tuesday said BC's housing market is currently experiencing a contractionary phase but the worst of that phase should be over by late summer or early fall." (BC Credit Union economist Richard Allen quoted in the Sun, July 5th 1995. link The decline in the late 90s was slow, but it took 28 quarters to bottom out and 33 quarters to recover to the previous peak. Some 'phase', eh?)


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DrStool
Hanky-

You have always shown yourself to have great investment instincts so I think you'll be ok, but I suspect that the market will drop to the level of your purchase price at some point.

So, Mazel Tov!
MrHanky
QUOTE(prancing_cow @ Mar 14 2008, 06:26 PM)
the house looks huge.

how do yo know those 130,000 new jobs Las Vegas in the next 2 years will pan out?
Since I got to this board I do not believe in any prediction/study/research done by anybody - nobody knows anything, it seems like they write what they want.
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These are all projects that have already broken ground (except 1)and most are past halfway finished.They will have to be staffed and will create some kind of a floor here in the market.City center alone will create about 12000 to 15000 jobs alone.
I believe after all these projects are finished in the next 2-3 years it may create a little bounce that will hold till they realize they built too many casinos(2012 or so)....40,000 new rooms in the next 2-3 years.

I was just at the title company dropping off the deposit check....She said they are the busiest they have been in 6 years,most are forclosures and bank owned sales....she also told me more than half are cash buyers..Will it last ?...who knows.

It seems a little crazy things can turn on the dime here,but I was outbid by 20 to 30 people on some properties huh.gif.I got lucky on this one and got my offer in the day it went for sale and convinced the bank to take it off the market and accept my offer.(it wasn't easy).

I would wait in any other market until you get at least the price drops your seeing in vegas...or close.

Anyway,thanks for everyone's input....still nervous as hell buying in this market....but at least I'm paying cash!



These are some of the major projests in the works....Too many to list.


Palazzo, 3,025 rooms; cost $1.8 billion, now open.
Encore at Wynn Las Vegas, 2,045 rooms: cost $1.7 billion.
CityCenter, 7,700 rooms: cost $7 billion.
Echelon Place, 3,300 rooms; cost $4 billion
Aliante Station, A smaller project by local casino operator "Station Casinos."
Cosmopolitan, 3,000 rooms; cost $2 billion
Fontainebleau, 4,000 rooms; cost $1.5 billion
Project X on the site of the former Westward Ho (next to CircusCircus), cost $1.8 billion
Las Ramblas, 1,225 rooms; cost $3. billion.
The Plaza.....4000 rooms?....$5-6 billion
DrStool
QUOTE(4shzl @ Mar 14 2008, 08:07 PM)
Our "friends" on the other side of the pond are just lapping this story up.

I wonder how images like this resonate in Beijing and Riyadh?  I mean how stupid do you have to be to keep lending billions to a country that allows this to happen to its citizens seven months before a national election?  By this summer, it should painfully obvious that foreign creditors are going to be on the top of nearly every politician's hit list.  And why not?  These are the folks who provided the wherewithal to keep Wall Street's rip-off artists in business long after they would otherwise have imploded.  How much longer before the mandarins in Asia and the oily ones in the GCC decide to cut their losses?
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Jimi
So then.

We're below 100 yen to the enfeebled green$pan.

Where's this broadly-expected intervention from the BoJ, hmmm???

Weren't we supposed to have seen intervention at 102? Like once before?
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-24443544.html

Traders get the weekend to ponder the apparent absence of the BoJ's this week.

I think the BoJ is going to be late to the dollar rally party, bwtfdik.
DrStool
QUOTE(MrHanky @ Mar 14 2008, 08:52 PM)

These are some of the major projests in the works....Too many to list.
Palazzo, 3,025 rooms; cost $1.8 billion, now open.
Encore at Wynn Las Vegas, 2,045 rooms: cost $1.7 billion.
CityCenter, 7,700 rooms: cost $7 billion.
Echelon Place, 3,300 rooms; cost $4 billion
Aliante Station, A smaller project by local casino operator "Station Casinos."
Cosmopolitan, 3,000 rooms; cost $2 billion
Fontainebleau, 4,000 rooms; cost $1.5 billion
Project X on the site of the former Westward Ho (next to CircusCircus), cost $1.8 billion
Las Ramblas, 1,225 rooms; cost $3. billion.
The Plaza.....4000 rooms?....$5-6 billion
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That's not good. I'd be nervous too. But you can probably flip it for a little profit, given the conditions you've described.
fxfox
QUOTE(Jimi @ Mar 14 2008, 07:55 PM)
So then.

We're below 100 yen to the enfeebled green$pan.

Where's this broadly-expected intervention from the BoJ, hmmm???

Weren't we supposed to have seen intervention at 102? Like once before?
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-24443544.html

Traders get the weekend to ponder the apparent absence of the BoJ's this week.

I think the BoJ is going to be late to the dollar rally party, bwtfdik.
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yes, it seems so. Even when it first did fall below 100 it didnt really feel and look like intervention, although it did go above 101 on that day. Interventions in the past looked different: They simply did ran it up 100 pips in a minute, let it fall down 20 pips, then 100 pips up again, then suckem in by letting it fall 50 or so, then the final EVERY short killing power jam. That is how interventions by the BoJ looked like in the past. This hasnt happen yet.

Japanese fiscal year ends march30. Repatriation. Maybe in April we get a new ball game.
jickiss
jickiss is back!



jickiss is back!


and did anything happen today? no.

Bear in trouble, well, who is not.
Bears will be in more trouble if there is a Foreign CB US Fed Stick Save on Monday or Tuesday.

There really are only two days left for aciton to be taken,

versus

a weight of selling that will see the Curse of William O'Neil come back to bite on the posteriors of the Wise Guys who have worshipped at that altar of mo-mo Big Time since the later 1980s.

The mo-mo generation loves to sell First, for they love to burn all they touch.

Live to prosecute, die by prosecution.
Live to press on, die by pressure.

Their really are no buyers left, short of a Stick Save that must be globally supported by them that can provide plenty of liquidity.

Doc must of needs be Perfectly Correct for if real Liquidity is missing, this present landscape is the reflection. your jickiss still views Higher Long Term Interest Rates as the element that will Define End Game. It is as clear as the Desert Sky at twilight that Higher Long Term Interest Rates are still quite a distance ahead.

da Boyz are not above Bailing out themselves, and todays tape looked like a directed effort to supply "No Bids!" If the very earth could be moved with a long enough lever, so too do da Boyz believe that they can turn the tide if they can secure enough free money.

Saturday will be the Ides of March, and the week ahead should be a week to remember for years. Bet a lot of Golf Games will be shakey this weakend.

Buddha.......will something Finally Happen? Next Week, mayhaps?

your jickiss still thinks the outcome will be aStick Save, mainly for the reason that no real Fear exists yet. Small minds seek relief from smaller annoyances, and the have trained themselves to think that the system is Fail Safe.

Managed Expectations are still central to the puppet masters.....Even if the Paper Moon is on Fire, it can still be wafted higher. But only one more time.

jickiss!!!!!!!
fxfox
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 14 2008, 07:53 PM)
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this looks a bit like made up. European arrogance. Pointing the finger on the americans. The BBC should go to Liverpool and show how it looks like there and shut the phuck up.
jickiss
jickiss is back!



jickiss is back!


and

how about a Head and Shoulders Top (mal formed Right Shoulder)

and A-B-C correction??

and NOW a Cup and handle nearing completion....

wow

jickiss!!!!!!!
Jorma
Another pretty good day. The Fed did something. What exactly isn't clear but Bear kept it's doors open to people wanting their money so it was good. It's always good when they do something.

'They aren't going to let the financial system collapse because it would be too terrible' I heard on PBS News Hour tonight. Faith is a powerful thing. Failure is not an option. God or the gods won't let America fail. It's impossible. Impossible to conceive at any rate.

chiefywiefy
QUOTE(shorty @ Mar 14 2008, 06:30 PM)
"We are facing a potential black hole for all financial markets,'' said Neil MacKinnon, chief economist at London-based hedge fund ECU Group, which manages $2 billion in assets. "This is being labeled as perhaps the worst financial and banking crisis since the Great Depression. While that sounds fairly apocalyptic, I think it is a realistic assessment of what is happening at the moment.''

The so- called TED spread increased to 1.58 percentage points today from 0.78 percentage point on Feb. 14.  ohmy.gif

The two-year note's yield fell 14 basis points, or 0.14 percentage point, to 1.48 percent. ohmy.gif

Demand for the shortest-term government debt pushed the rate on three-month bills down to 1.17 percent, the lowest since June 2004.  ohmy.gif

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What happens to the US federal budget deficit if/when these rates return to the mean??? unsure.gif
cbear
QUOTE(Charmin @ Mar 15 2008, 04:09 AM)
Maybe we'll wake up Monday to China unpegging from the dollar.
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Will that be good or bad for the SPX? You'll have to draw pictures with crayons so I can understand.
Private Skidmark
QUOTE(Jorma @ Mar 14 2008, 08:51 PM)
Another pretty good day. The Fed did something. What exactly isn't clear but Bear kept it's doors open to people wanting their money so it was good. It's always good when they do something.

'They aren't going to let the financial system collapse because it would be too terrible' I heard on PBS News Hour tonight.  Faith is a powerful thing. Failure is not an option.  God or the gods won't let America fail. It's impossible.  Impossible to conceive at any rate.
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They should consider that perhaps all things are possible in a just universe. At other times other things were also thought to be impossible. But hubris is a human constant and our debts will be settled in flesh, ours and our children's. ph34r.gif
joe3pack
plop-plop, thanks for plopping down the quotes of denial.

and mr. hanky, congrats on the scoop! mahvelous purchase.
DrStool
QUOTE(jickiss @ Mar 14 2008, 09:09 PM)

Doc must of needs be Perfectly Correct for if real Liquidity is missing, this present landscape is the reflection.  your jickiss still views Higher Long Term Interest Rates as the element that will Define End Game.  It is as clear as the Desert Sky at twilight that Higher Long Term Interest Rates are still quite a distance ahead.


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When the buying stampede burns out and the panicked herd suddenly realizes that it has been had, the reversal will be swift and awesome to behold. It will take no prisoners.

It will not take long, and the day may be closer than you think.
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