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aussiebear
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http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices


aussiebear
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Back and forth at this stage. All Ords currently +0.1%, with the worst performing sectors of recent days doing a bounce. A-REIT is out in front, +2.3% followed by Financials +1.4%. Miners and Materials are down the most, -2.9% and -2.4% respectively.

All the miners are down: BHP -3.6%, RIO -3.1% and in the golds, Newcrest -3.9%, Newmont -0.9% and Lihir -3.7%. Juniors flat.

Oils are reasonably stable: Woodside -0.4%, Santos -0.8% and Caltex +4.4%.


aussiebear
BOE Offers Banks Emergency Cash to Ease Money Markets

March 17 (Bloomberg) -- The Bank of England offered extra cash to banks in the first short-term emergency operation for six months, joining the U.S. Federal Reserve in an attempt to prevent a financial-market meltdown.

``This action is being taken in response to conditions in the short-term money markets this morning,'' the U.K. central bank said in a statement today in London. ``The bank will take actions to ensure that the overnight rate is close to bank rate. Along with other central banks, the Bank of England is closely monitoring market conditions.''


roxy
Negative divergence at A/D line. Down she goes
roxy
Negative divergence with junk bonds. McClellan is falling. Must be bearish
aussiebear
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A sideways move in a very twitchy market. All Ords closed -0.2% with IT taking the lead, +3.4% followed by Financials +1.9%. Miners closed down the most, -3.6% and Materials was next, -3.1%.

Not a good day for the blue chip miners: BHP -4.8%, RIO -3.3% and in the golds, Newcrest -3.1%, Newmont -1.4% and Lihir -2.7%. Juniors flat to up.

Oilwise, Woodside +1.2%, Santos -0.9% and Caltex +7.5%.

A bit of a mix in Asia: China -2.7%, Honkers -1.2% and Nikkers +1.1%.


Over to UK/Europe:

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http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe



joe3pack
if a reload-the-shorts rally occurs, i'd look for FXI to move back up to ~140, at which time i'll sneak into the FXP henhouse in the low 90s. best laid plans and all.
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DrStool
5 day cycle now in an up phase. Those of us who are short are going to have to grit our teeth and bear it. Initial 3 day cycle projection on qqqq looks around 42.22. That may not be the end of it. SPY projecting 130.20. And thanks to the hard work of the Dow manipulators, the DIA is pointing toward 122.75.

Today is FOMC day. Nothing matters before 2:15 PM when the shooting starts.
Peek Paper
I posted March 4 ... so far, proving accurate, IMO...

The Bulls get gimmee' tailwind for a change. FOMC week, Opex week, short week ... all wrapping up in next 3 trading days.

Ain't free markets great?
beardrech
QUOTE(aussiebear @ Mar 17 2008, 07:35 PM)
BOE Offers Banks Emergency Cash to Ease Money Markets

March 17 (Bloomberg) -- The Bank of England offered extra cash to banks in the first short-term emergency operation for six months, joining the U.S. Federal Reserve in an attempt to prevent a financial-market meltdown.

``This action is being taken in response to conditions in the short-term money markets this morning,'' the U.K. central bank said in a statement today in London. ``The bank will take actions to ensure that the overnight rate is close to bank rate. Along with other central banks, the Bank of England is closely monitoring market conditions.''
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I dont know whether this is an empirical ratification of a thesis propounded in a book (The Shield of Achilles) by Prof. Bobbitt , or whether Bobbitt ratified an already ongoing merger of most of the major central banks of any world significance...

But the everyday superhuman energies manifested by Central Banking behaviour means someone or something is getting in and out of telephone booths all over the world, without ever entangeling his cape once...

By now The basement in the Fed must be so full of putrescent drech that the nabors must be complaining to the health department...

Anyway, Prof Bobbitt devotes his heavyweight tome to the onging death of the Nation State and the developement of the Market State....wherein the traditional obligations, one of which is Defense, are no longer autonomously possible except at the lowest most minimal levels.

And that necessarily only consortiums, collectives, allies etc are a precondition of survival....but most importantly, that absent constitutional changes ,similar to those that started with the importation of cannon by Charles the VIII during another era, and which Machiavelli rationalised, the fragility will be compounded...Until we start making civilizational rules amidst the ruins....

As a nervous cynic, the thesis reminds me of Leibnitz's suggestion to the European powers (Napoleon?), that the necessary ingredient for maintaining the peace of Europe was to commence seeking and finding the missing element. His solution? Naturally, despite his eminence as one of the three greatest minds of Europe, was an external enemy: An external enemy, enabling the continent to redirect its perrenial hatreds towards something really loathsome,in this case EGYPT.


beardrech ph34r.gif ph34r.gif Perhaps the primitive nature of a start lurks Either within the Greening, or cosmically air-conditioning overheating of the Furnace Earth,perhaps a battalion of Windmills, maybe a herd of buffalo sized goats,but Dear G*d, Please,Please Give us something ,anything, worthwhile to lovingly Hate.
fxfox
German finance minister sees "biggest world financial crisis of the last few decades", so far so right, then he says "fear that the crisis will have spill over effect to the real economy" FEAR??? It is a GIVEN that there will be HUGE implications for the real economy! Do those guys think that the financial system is an isolated system? I say: By this summer the job market will collapse, it will be 2003 again.
4shzl
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We noted back in February that the surge in page views tends to occur towards a tradable low -- not THE low, but usually one that is good for a few weeks. That last contrary signal worked out quite well.

We got another such signal on Monday -- page views skyrocketed to what might actually have been the single biggest one day total.
Link: Big Picture

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4shzl
QUOTE(beardrech @ Mar 18 2008, 05:26 AM)
I dont know whether this is an empirical ratification of a thesis propounded in a book (The Shield of Achilles) by Prof. Bobbitt , or whether Bobbitt  ratified an already ongoing merger of most of the major central banks of any world significance...

But the everyday superhuman energies manifested by Central Banking behaviour means someone or something is getting in and out of telephone booths all over the world, without ever entangeling his cape once...

By now The basement in the Fed must be so full of putrescent drech that the nabors must be complaining to the health department...

Anyway, Prof Bobbitt devotes his heavyweight tome to the onging death of the Nation State and the developement of the Market State....wherein the traditional obligations, one  of which is Defense, are no longer autonomously possible except at the lowest most minimal levels.

And that necessarily only consortiums, collectives, allies etc are a precondition of survival....but most importantly, that absent constitutional changes ,similar to those that started with the importation of cannon by Charles the VIII  during another era, and which Machiavelli rationalised, the fragility will be compounded...Until we start making civilizational rules amidst the ruins....

As a nervous cynic, the thesis reminds me of  Leibnitz's suggestion to the European powers (Napoleon?), that the necessary ingredient for maintaining the peace of Europe was to commence seeking and finding the  missing element. His solution? Naturally, despite his eminence as one of the three greatest minds of Europe, was an external enemy: An external enemy, enabling the continent to redirect its perrenial hatreds towards something really loathsome,in this case EGYPT. 


beardrech  ph34r.gif  ph34r.gif Perhaps the primitive nature of a start lurks Either within the Greening, or  cosmically air-conditioning overheating of the Furnace Earth,perhaps a battalion of Windmills, maybe a herd of buffalo sized goats,but Dear G*d, Please,Please Give us something ,anything, worthwhile to lovingly Hate.
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Thomas Cole painted it best:
potatohead

*DJ Goldman CFO: Liquidity Position Is Stronger Than Ever

ironically that comment was under the BSC symbol
DrStool
QUOTE(4shzl @ Mar 18 2008, 08:50 AM)


We've been doing that here for years. Monday was not extreme here. It was high, but not at the kind of extremes that normally mark a significant low.
DrStool
spy 3 day cycle now projecting around 131.
DrStool
dia now projecting 123.60.
DrStool
qqqq still projecting around 42.22, but the mini base breakout says 42.90. I suspect the cycle projections are behind the curve here on qqqq, given the much stronger projections on dow and spy.
Peek Paper
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 08:05 AM)
spx 3 day cycle now projecting around 131.
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izthatall???

I bet the VIX doesn't budge.

I want a rally-from-hell here. Get this end game overwith.

Clear out all the shorts for the next 5 1/4 hours or so ...
potatohead
Spiders - June S&P E-mini Futures: The e-minis never equaled their Sunday night low at 1253 during the Monday session, despite all the bad news which has been hitting the market. There is still a good chance that the 1220 level will be seen before a big rally starts but I also believe that the market will make it into the 1430-50 range over the next couple of months. Upside target for the rally from 1253 is 1330.

from CARL Futia........how does this guy get up in the morning and put out this crap......bears be careful
fxfox
"stronger than ever", when i read such a bullshit i can only vomit. It is outright disgusting and nothing else but a pure LIE! PHUCKING LIAR! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
Lemur
The recent stock market declines are front page main headline news in Irish & UK newspapers this morning. Always a botomn.
stevieo
QUOTE(kiwibear @ Mar 18 2008, 12:37 AM)
Lost in the hubbub of the BS debacle, has been appalling result for the Empire State index, industrial production and consumer spending - all well below the expectations of the band of geniuses known as Wall Street analysts/economists.

The real economy is also in the shit and the fundamentals will ultimately be reflected in prices.
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kiwibear's post in M2M reminded me...

There was a guy on one of those half hour interviews on Bloomberg last night. I think he's from the BIS. Didn't catch his name. He was rather blase about the coming recession, which he said looks like it might be a really bad global depression. Thing is, he also said noone's paying attention to the depression anymore because the credit crisis is so much more dangerous.

Personally, it just proves they haven't connected the dots. They still think of the consumer slowdown as something disconnected from the credit bubble. They'll continue trying to put out the forest fire tree by tree.
linrom
Potential for another Sigma 4 up day is very strong today. Dow could finish higher than 12393.
fxfox
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 08:04 AM)
We've been doing that here for years. Monday was not extreme here. It was high, but not at the kind of extremes that normally mark a significant low.
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M2M on weekend was definitely an extreme. Dont forget the majority of the action happend when futures opened on sunday night, at that time M2M was packed like the parking lot of a big mall on saturday.
I_Am_Madness
Looks like earnings were leaked ahead of time yesterday. Futures rock'n!
Peek Paper
It's gone beyond Wall Street now. I know many people who are now afraid. My gold/short-the-market kooky reputation has transmorgified into a fresh aura of respect that a scumbag like me is definitely not used to.

Still no chicks for free, however.

Confidence is in free fall. Instead of letting Bear fail, they opened the door to letting a larger cash bank fail, IMO. Although I understand the logic of the deal, no one has considered to politics of long soup lines, ATM shut downs and police barricades surrounding bank branches.
potatohead
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 07:04 AM)
We've been doing that here for years. Monday was not extreme here. It was high, but not at the kind of extremes that normally mark a significant low.
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as a bear my fear is that The Fed is now the official market support or lifeline. This has all the makings of hyperinflation. I am afraid there will come a day where the markets will begin to rise simply because there is no where else to put your money. A bank deposit at 3 or 4 % is laughable. Although insured up to 100,000 you still run a risk. And for all those savers the last 5 years, Inflation has killed them.

Trade Careful.
fxfox
QUOTE(Lemur @ Mar 18 2008, 08:16 AM)
The recent stock market declines are front page main headline news in Irish & UK newspapers this morning. Always a botomn.
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Also in Germany very HUGE coverage yesterday, was first flic they brought at the evening prime time news. Today they said on radio "stocks recovering some, after "black monday" yesterday". DAX wasnt even down 4% yest and they speak about "black monday"??? During the 2000-2003 DAX was quite often down more than 4%.
stevieo
I'm probably staying out this week. Too late to catch the Fed (rumour) bounce. A rate cut won't matter. I'm tempted to fade the rally, but will wait for Thursday to see how heavily they're using the PDCoF.
Lemur
Anybody here reloading shorts into this rally. All those credit issues (aka BSC) are still lurking out there y'know. Though I guess one could argue it does not make much difference to the US mkts.
Peek Paper
QUOTE(Lemur @ Mar 18 2008, 08:30 AM)
Anybody here reloading shorts into this rally. All those credit issues (aka BSC) are still lurking out there y'know. Though I guess one could argue it does not make much difference to the US mkts.
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Unless we come off the opening print significantly, I'm waiting until after the FOMC. But the answer is "yes" ...
DrStool
spx opens above 3 day cycle projeciton of 1301. 5 hr cycle projection looks 1310.
DrStool
Dow 3 day cycle projection 12165-12245. 5 hr cycle projection 12220
DrStool
spx 5 hr cycle projection now looks like a range of 1299-1310.
DrStool
QUOTE(Peek Paper @ Mar 18 2008, 09:09 AM)
izthatall???

I bet the VIX doesn't budge.

I want a rally-from-hell here. Get this end game overwith.

Clear out all the shorts for the next 5 1/4 hours or so ...
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typo. Should have been spy.
4shzl
QUOTE(linrom @ Mar 18 2008, 06:17 AM)
Potential for another Sigma 4 up day is very strong today. Dow could finish higher than 12393.
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With all due respect, you might want to spend some time reading Nassim Taleb or Jeremy Grantham on the inapplicability of normal distributions to stock prices. We may indeed get a large point move to the upside today; but we will not get a "Sigma 4" move because standard deviations are meaningless in this context.
derby
QUOTE(Lemur @ Mar 18 2008, 06:30 AM)
Anybody here reloading shorts into this rally. All those credit issues (aka BSC) are still lurking out there y'know. Though I guess one could argue it does not make much difference to the US mkts.
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yes I am planning to, but that doesn't mean much.
DrStool
My gut says we are going to have a huge down day.

So, I guess you can fade that. laugh.gif

You can call me Lrac Aituf. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
stevieo
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 09:48 AM)
My gut says we are going to have a huge down day.

So, I guess you can fade that. laugh.gif

You can call me Lrac Aituf.  laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Maybe beginning at 2:15pm?
DrStool
QUOTE(4shzl @ Mar 18 2008, 09:47 AM)
With all due respect, you might want to spend some time reading Nassim Taleb or Jeremy Grantham on the inapplicability of normal distributions to stock prices.  We may indeed get a large point move to the upside today; but we will not get a "Sigma 4" move because standard deviations are meaningless in this context.
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That's why I think Bullinger Bands are the dumbest technical indicator ever invented. Worse than worthless. I know a lot of people use them, but I just never got it. I love price envelopes, but only when they are based on time regression. They can be either linear or curved. You just read them differently, but that squiggly standard deviation stuff is a total waste in my view. Absolutely superfluous, and sometimes grossly misleading.

And please don't flame me about this. It's ok to disagree. Some of my best troglodyte friends use them. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
DrStool
I don't know what that word means, but it sounded good so I used it. laugh.gif

Even looked it up afterwards. laugh.gif
Bungster
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 08:48 AM)
My gut says we are going to have a huge down day.

So, I guess you can fade that. laugh.gif

You can call me Lrac Aituf.  laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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It appears the market is fading you this morning tongue.gif .....but let's see what happens in the afternoon.... wink.gif
Brick Stoolhouse
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 08:54 AM)
I don't know what that word means, but it sounded good so I used it. laugh.gif

Even looked it up afterwards. laugh.gif
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CW- What time will they take gold down under $1000 today in anticipation of the 100 pernt Fed easing?
potatohead

DJ Fed Accepts $15 Bln In 28-Day RPs

Type of transaction: 28-Day RPs
Total accepted: $15 Bln
Total submitted: $62.55 Bln

Mortgage-Backed Collateral Operations
Total accepted: $15 Bln
Total submitted: $62.55 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 2.25%
Weighted Average: 2.32%
High-rate submitted: 2.5%
Low-rate submitted: 1.75%

(Data was provided by the New York Federal Reserve Bank
Peek Paper
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 18 2008, 08:48 AM)
My gut says we are going to have a huge down day.

So, I guess you can fade that. laugh.gif

You can call me Lrac Aituf.  laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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I've read that anything between 0 - 1% rate drop will be "bullish"; 0- 0.5% prolly rallying the dollar, 0.5% - 1 % prolly rallying the carry trade spill over into equities.

Less likely - but what I think - is a "sell the news" scenario, wherein what the Fed says really doesn't matter.

I don't think what the Fed does even matters anymore.

The Bear Stearns rescue, according to the WSJ, was all Paulson.

The Fed supplied the coffee.
potatohead

DJ Fed Accepts $9.25 Bln In Overnight RPs

Type of transaction: Overnight RPs
Total accepted: $9.25 Bln
Total submitted: $19.55 Bln

Agency Collateral Operation
Total accepted: $5.337 Bln
Total submitted: $6.3 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 2.7%
Weighted Average: 2.87%
High-rate submitted: 2.95%
Low-rate submitted: 2.6%

Treasury Collateral Operation
Total accepted: $313 Mln
Total submitted: $8.9 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 0.9%
Weighted Average: 0.9%
High-rate submitted: 0.9%
Low-rate submitted: 0.05%

Mortgage-Backed Collateral Operations
Total accepted: $3.6 Bln
Total submitted: $4.35 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 2.85%
Weighted Average: 2.89%
High-rate submitted: 2.95%
Low-rate submitted: 2.4%

(Data was provided by the New York Federal Reserve Bank).
crooked_analyst
Let's see.... HUI was flyinmg yesterday, get' sturned around and sold. We're told that it was just following the overall Market. When the DOW recovered, the HUI was sent to the corner. This morning, we know we're getting a rate cut, the DOW sky's, and the HUI is still forced to sit in the corner. Yup...make a lot of sense to me. mad.gif
Lemur
QUOTE(stevieo @ Mar 18 2008, 01:51 PM)
Maybe beginning at 2:15pm?
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Well the finaglers are certainly getting pumped up here. But I doubt if Ben is going to disappoint. He never has in the past. The mkt right now seems to be driven by newsnoise & sticksaves. A day traders mkt.

Its difficult to hold a short & stay short stance. Your weekly gains just melt away in front of your eyes (especially on Tues lately).
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