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aussiebear
Still on hols here in Oz...carry on the good work.... smile.gif


An Ant
I can't make out if this is Bullish or Bearish

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Under the terms being discussed, JPMorgan would pay $10 a share in stock for Bear, up from its initial offer of $2 a share — a figure that represented a mere one-fifteenth of Bear’s going market price.

The Fed, which must approve any new deal, was balking at the new offer price on Sunday night after several days of frantic, secret negotiations, these people said.



JPMorgan in Negotiations to Raise Bear Stearns Bid

From the news:

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In an unusual move, Bear’s board was seeking to authorize the sale of 39.5 percent of the firm to JPMorgan in an effort to move closer to majority shareholder approval. Under state law in Delaware, where the companies are incorporated, a company can sell up to 40 percent without shareholder approval.



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Inside Bear, the vitriol over the original bargain-basement price was palpable last week. Bear employees own more than a third of Bear’s stock, and many longtime employees faced the prospect of losing all their savings. On Monday, some were seen crying in the hallways of the firm’s Midtown Manhattan headquarters.


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If Bear’s board sells JPMorgan 39.5 percent of the firm, as it was attempting to do on Sunday night, that would leave JPMorgan needing only slightly more than 10.5 percent of shareholder support to complete the transaction. And the individuals on Bear’s board, who were supportive of the deal on Sunday night, own a total of about 5 percent of outstanding shares.


Looks like these folks were busy over the holidayz
Drano
1) Make lowball offer to steal firm for less than the value of the headquarters building
2) "relent" and make lowball offer to steal firm for a bit more than the value of the HQ building
3) assume that you will avoid lawsuits and glean the thanks of grateful shareholders who now lose only their shirts, not their pants too
4) oops -- you just gave them evidence that you were stealing from them and now they're REALLY burned.....
Drano
Americans confident in 2009 turnaround
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Though times are tough now, Americans believe the economy will bounce back by next year, according to a survey released Friday.

A national CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that 60% of respondents think economic conditions in the United States will be "good" next year, as opposed to the 75% who think the economic situation is "poor" now.

"Most people realize that the economy has cycles of ups and downs," said Wachovia economist Sam Bullard. "Fortunately, the last two recessions were some of the shortest on record, so in 2009 we should be pulling up out of this."

Of the more than 1,000 American adults surveyed in the poll, conducted March 14-16, 83% said they are "confident" that they will be able to maintain their standards of living next year, and 85% are "confident" they will keep their jobs over the next six months.

Americans also showed faith that they would be able to pay off their future debts, with 90% of respondents demonstrating confidence they would be able to meet their monthly mortgage payments for the duration of the mortgage.


Let the rally continue....
Drano
Article detailing how sad it is that the BSC execs are losing big bux


Boo hoo, pity the poor multi-millionaires

One smart fella, he felt smart
Peek Paper
I ain't trading the markit fer a few days ... hoarding some greenback dollivars and lookin' for a good wheat silo. The ammo and semi-automatics will have to wait 'till Tuesday.

Bullish on anarchy-related stocks.
DrStool
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Alphabet Soup

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ChicagoBear
QUOTE(Peek Paper @ Mar 24 2008, 03:38 AM)
I ain't trading the markit fer a few days ... hoarding some greenback dollivars and lookin' for a good wheat silo. The ammo and semi-automatics will have to wait 'till Tuesday.

Bullish on anarchy-related stocks.
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Here are some stocks ideas to bolster the "Brave New World" portfolio:

Hormel (HRL) = food
Diageo (DEO) = booze
Smith & Wesson (SWHC) = guns
New Frontier (NOOF) = porn

What else would ya need?
DrStool
Retest of Wednesday's high looks baked in. Then what.
Jetlag
QUOTE(An Ant @ Mar 24 2008, 12:02 AM)
I can't make out if this is Bullish or Bearish
JPMorgan in Negotiations to Raise Bear Stearns Bid

From the news:
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Looks like these folks were busy over the holidayz
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Since it's the FED's (taxpayers) money why not at the share price before the collapse?

Regarding delaware law, it sounds a lot like the way russian mobsters stole public companies in the 90's. Different countries, different eras, same kind of spineless finaglers.
DrStool
3 day cycle projection on dia looks 124.20
DrStool
Dow left off Thursday with a 3 day cycle projection around 12450.
Jetlag
Most markets closed.

Not this one:

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That's a new closing low for those keeping track.
DrStool
spx 3 day cycle projection was 1342-1350. spy has already broken 3 day cycle projection of 132.90. 5 day cycle projection points to range of 133.80-134.50
DrStool
qqqq 3 day cycle projection 43.75-.80
DrStool
10 year Treasury yields up sharply.
DrStool
13 week bill yield now at 0.75. Up from low of 0.20 on Thursday. That might have been the final blowoff of the panic. If so, the US government is in deep, deep trouble...

and so are we as US Americans, and such as.
DrStool
chicago-

Of course I will continue producing the Fed report on a daily basis at least on days when there are Treasury auctions, auction announcements, or any other action or news release by the Fed, Treasury, and FCBs. That would cover at least Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, and Wednesday when there are Note auctions.

So I might take off two days a month. laugh.gif

I will continue to report the OMO, but will move them to the end of the report, since they go from being the most important part of the report to virtually irrelevant as a result of the PDCF.
DrStool
I will also be calling my contact at the Fed today to ream him a new one about this. I assume he talks to Bernanke regularly, and I know for sure that he talks to Geithner.
Drano
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 24 2008, 08:13 AM)
I will also be calling my contact at the Fed today to ream him a new one about this. I assume he talks to Bernanke regularly, and I know for sure that he talks to Geithner.
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Do you really think they want people to know what's going on? Looks like the wizard wants to put another curtain between him and the tin woodman....
cwd
QUOTE(Peek Paper @ Mar 24 2008, 04:38 AM)
I ain't trading the markit fer a few days ... hoarding some greenback dollivars and lookin' for a good wheat silo. The ammo and semi-automatics will have to wait 'till Tuesday.

Bullish on anarchy-related stocks.
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Got any names? biggrin.gif
cwd
QUOTE(DrStool @ Mar 24 2008, 08:13 AM)
I will also be calling my contact at the Fed today to ream him a new one about this. I assume he talks to Bernanke regularly, and I know for sure that he talks to Geithner.
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You might ask him how they can guarantee 30 bil to JPM when JPM just increased their offer for BSC stock 5x. mad.gif
DrStool
double top time.
DrStool
intraday indicators all very boolish.
potatohead
DJ Fed Accepts $5.5 Bln In 3-Day RPs

Type of transaction: 3-Day RPs
Total accepted: $5.5 Bln
Total submitted: $48 Bln

Agency Collateral Operation
Total accepted: $4.5 Bln
Total submitted: $16.65 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 2.25%
Weighted Average: 2.25%
High-rate submitted: 2.25%
Low-rate submitted: 2.05%

Treasury Collateral Operation
Total accepted: None
Total submitted: $21.4 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: N/A
Weighted Average: N/A
High-rate submitted: 0.75%
Low-rate submitted: 0.1%

Mortgage-Backed Collateral Operations
Total accepted: $1 Bln
Total submitted: $9.95 Bln
Stop-Out Rate: 2.35%
Weighted Average: 2.35%
High-rate submitted: 2.35%
Low-rate submitted: 2.15%

(Data was provided by the New York Federal Reserve Bank).

Have to question what this info is worth to us, now that we are blind on the PDCF operations with the PDs. We have no clue how much they took on Thursday, Friday, or how much they will take tonight. Considering they had $28.8 billion out at the end of the third day of the program, god knows where they are now. Is this $5.5 billion an adjunct, or an offset? We just don't know.
DrStool
Except for money flow which has negative divergences in the longer time frames. These are usually about a day early at turning points.
DrStool
spx 3 day cycle projection 1357.
DrStool
dow 3 day cycle projection 12570
DrStool
qqqq projection of 43.55-.75 has been hit.
stevieo
They're already talking about the aftermath of the recession, as if it's over. This is gonna be one for the history books. If they still have such things afterwards.

It was fun trading the liquidity reports while it lasted. Made some decent money there. I'm fine with waiting patiently for another good opportunity. Maybe after window dressing.

Wonder when we break the record here. Only 35 users.
cwd
Finally, some respected money managers are calling this what it is THEFT. mad.gif



March 24, 2008
Why is Bear Stearns Trading at $6 Instead of $2?

John P. Hussman, Ph.D.
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Well, the ECRI (one of the more reliable private economic analysis groups) has finally thrown in the towel – “With the Weekly Leading Index having dropped more than 13 points in the last nine months, it is exhibiting a pronounced, pervasive, and persistent decline that is unambiguously recessionary.”

The possibility of a “bear market rally” aside, if the S&P 500 has already set its low, it will have been the first time that the market has responded to a similar economic downturn with less than a 20% loss on a closing basis. If we define the recent downturn as a bear market anyway, the recent low will represent the highest level of valuation that has ever prevailed at the bottom of a bear market. I expect neither of these to be true for long, but as usual, we'll respond to the evidence as it unfolds – without the need to forecast any particular scenario.

Though our investment horizon of interest is a complete market cycle, we don't generally think in terms of bull and bear markets, because they can only be determined in hindsight. We prefer observable measures that allow us to identify the prevailing state or “Market Climate” at every point in time. We don't expect various Market Climates to overlap tightly with actual bull or bear markets. Instead, we expect that, on average, the return/risk profile in “favorable” Market Climates will significantly exceed the return/risk profile in “unfavorable” Market Climates. Accordingly, if we accept a greater amount of risk during favorable conditions, and less during unfavorable conditions, we expect to perform strongly – at controlled risk – over the complete market cycle.

For now, we remain defensive, but we recognize the potential for a “bear market rally” despite conditions that, as yet, do not provide enough evidence to warrant removing a significant portion of our hedges.

Why is Bear Stearns trading at $6 instead of $2?

As I emphasized last week, the large “term financing” and “term securities lending” programs initiated by the Fed do not expose the Fed to default risk in mortgage collateral it accepts from the banks that act as primary dealers. Even if the underlying securities default, those facilities involve repurchase agreements, so the bank putting up the collateral has to repurchase the collateral at the original price plus interest after a term of 28 or 90 days. The Fed only stands to lose if the bank itself fails, and so spectacularly that the bank's liquidation value goes negative even after zeroing out bondholder claims and stockholder equity. Even in the present environment, this is unlikely.

Alarmingly, immediately after the pixels dried on last week's comment (noting “the Fed is emphatically not taking the default risk of the mortgage market onto itself” with these term facilities), details emerged that the Fed had agreed to a very different deal in its attempt to rescue Bear Stearns. This is a major and ominous departure from historical Fed policy, and from legality.

I'll cut straight to the chase.

Bear Stearns is trading at $6 instead of $2 because unelected bureaucrats went beyond their legal mandates, delivered a windfall to a single private company at public expense, entered agreements that violate the the public trust, and created a situation where even if the bureaucratic malfeasance stands, the shareholders of Bear Stearns will either reject the deal or be deprived of their right to determine the fate of the company they own. Very simply, Bear Stearns is still in play. Still, when all is said and done, my own impression is that the ultimate value of the stock will not be $2, but exactly zero.

In effect, the Federal Reserve decided last week to overstep its legal boundaries – going beyond providing liquidity to the banking system and attempting to ensure the solvency of a non-bank entity. Specifically, the Fed agreed to provide a $30 billion “non-recourse loan” to J.P. Morgan, secured only by the worst tranche of Bear Stearns' mortgage debt. But the bank – J.P. Morgan – was in no financial trouble. Instead, it was effectively offered a subsidy by the Fed at public expense. Rick Santelli of Crapvision is exactly right. If this is how the U.S. government is going to operate in a democratic, free-market society, “we might as well put a hammer and sickle on the flag.”

What is a “non-recourse loan”? Put simply, if the homeowners underlying that weak tranche of debt go into foreclosure, they will lose their homes, and the public will lose as well. But J.P. Morgan will not lose, nor will Bear Stearns' bondholders. This will be an outrageous outcome if it is allowed to stand.

In my view, the deal would be palatable if J.P. Morgan was to remain fully responsible for any losses on the “collateral” provided to the Federal Reserve, assuming shareholders were to consent to the buyout. As it stands, Congress should quickly step in to bust the existing deal and demand an alternate resolution, by clearly insisting that the Fed's action was not legal.

The Fed did not act to save a bank, but to enrich one. Congress has the power to appropriate resources for such a deal by the representative will of the people – the Fed does not, even under Depression era banking laws. The “loan” falls outside of Section 13-3 of the Federal Reserve Act, because it is not in fact a loan to either Bear Stearns or J.P. Morgan. Bear Stearns is no longer a business entity under this agreement. And if the fiction that this is a “loan” to J.P. Morgan was true, J.P. Morgan would be obligated to pay it back, period. The only point at which the value of the “collateral” would become an issue would be in the event that J.P. Morgan itself was to fail. No, this is not a loan. It is a put option granted by the Fed to J.P. Morgan on a basket of toxic securities. And it is not legal
http://www.hussman.net/wmc/wmc080324.htm
Howl
deleted, cwd was ahead of me
DrStool
QUOTE(stevieo @ Mar 24 2008, 09:49 AM)
They're already talking about the aftermath of the recession, as if it's over. This is gonna be one for the history books. If they still have such things afterwards.

It was fun trading the liquidity reports while it lasted. Made some decent money there. I'm fine with waiting patiently for another good opportunity. Maybe after window dressing.

Wonder when we break the record here. Only 35 users.
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They were talking about the recovery in 1930 too. Stocks rose for about 6 months from the October 29 bottom.

Low traffic on the site is misleading today since Europe is closed and many Americans also have the day off. About 10-15% of our users are Your a peein.
DrStool
Hussman's comments are compelling. There will be more to this story.
DrStool
spx and dow break make a beeline for their projections as qqq breaks through its. All break out.
cwd
Steve LIESman, good news on the housing front, the bottom is in. Sales up and inventory down. ohmy.gif
crooked_analyst
QUOTE(Drano @ Mar 24 2008, 08:20 AM)
Do you really think they want people to know what's going on? Looks like the wizard wants to put another curtain between him and the tin woodman....
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What did I miss? Is the FED going to stop reporting TOMO's or something?
DrStool
It's not clear that qqqq projections have risen. Let's give it a few minutes to see if this is just an overshoot.
DrStool
Outside projection looks like 43.88.
Dharmaeye
SPX approaching 50 Daily EMA
cwd
Cramer going crazy, the bottom is in, homies are flying. dry.gif
cwd
UFB, a double in a week ohmy.gif

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Bungster
The recession is over! Let's party with the FED.... rolleyes.gif

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4shzl
Covered last night's ZB chort @ 119'02 fer a pernt 'n a half. smile.gif
Bungster
Gap has been closed....What's next? unsure.gif

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NOT a buy point..............
joe3pack
QUOTE(cwd @ Mar 24 2008, 05:42 AM)
You might ask him how they can guarantee 30 bil to JPM when JPM just increased their offer for BSC stock 5x. mad.gif
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. . . money for nothing and your chicks for free.
DrStool
qqqq 3 day cycle projection now looks 44.45-44.50.
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