The Second Hill
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Are you running that hill or is that hill running you?

That's a question a man asked me today as I was jogging.

He was standing by his car, I was breathing hard as I moved up the hill where he was parked. His question plagued me.

Each day presents us with hills.

Hills, bills, chills, spills, thrills, deals, kills, pills, wills, and nils. . .

We have them all sooner or later.

Are they running you or are you running them?

Each hill or uphill climb in our lives tries to tire us, make us quit, or at the very least, make us complain.

You can't avoid getting tired.

I don't care how much exertion your physical or mental conditioning can withstand, a steep enough hill will make you tired.

Whether the hill is running you doesn't depend upon whether you are tired. There are those who are tired even though they are sitting in rocking chairs.

The hill runs you when it gets you down. I refuse to let that happen. I know the hills make me stronger, that's why I run them. Every hill in my life has made me stronger.

If you run your hills instead of them running you, they will make you stronger, too.

You'll be in better shape.

You'll get tired, but eventually the same hill will get easier and easier.

One day, even the hills will be no challenge.

You'll seek a mountain.

Don't worry, you've got Wings.

From MountainWings.com – The Daily Inspirational Email

I laughed out loud upon seeing Mr. Kenobie

"I'm proud that our fund is down 11% YTD." - Ryan Jacob of Jacob
asset management.

That's a 89% payback. Fabulous Ryan. Hell, I could have gone
to the slots in the casino and got a 94% payback!

Good Job Ryan, you f!cking theif.

CBOE P/C

QUOTE (sweefraapp @ Dec 4 2002, 11:47 AM)

I laughed out loud upon seeing Mr. Kenobie

You mean that wasn't a picture of Doc?

been a subscriber to the site for a few months now and a lurker on intraday stool...Doc i appreciate your work and must say yer charts have helped alot in my trading.....thnx again

QUOTE (Auntie Septic @ Dec 4 2002, 11:49 AM)

"I'm proud that our fund is down 11% YTD." - Ryan Jacob of Jacob asset management.

Then pretty soon he'll be even prouder!

Charmin,..... that is a very nice chart. That blue line looks like a regression line. If you wanted to, you could add some rails to it for possible price targets....just run some parallel line at the high and low...... often suprising how often regression channels hit...... fwiw

Mr. Kenobie was one of my finest students.

Dover sole pretty much worked off.
Market might blow lunch chunks this afternoon.

Pwetty funny GF.

The Bear is alive

sniff - which chart were you looking at - spx or glg

maybe you could post something just so I can see what you mean

Ignore that dover sole comment. I was looking at a borked stock by mistake.

Yet another sign that we're in for one helluva ride......with patience.



Summation almost rolling over.......late but safe signal for more conservative traders.......who need to make the $19.29 to subscribe to one of the greatest Hurst practitioners in the Milky Way



I don't know how much people pay for wavy Prechter-missed-parabola-by-a-few-years-type-stuff, but Hurst farts in their general direction....including Gann, whose book I just finished and I'm very impressed, but the math is nothing quite like Hurst principles.....for trading. All non-Hurst TA is secondary....imo.

Doc, raise it to $1929.00 ....you'll get more traffic......but what if it's institutions??

PM update

CBOE P/C

Thank you Doctor Mucil!

I never met a Mucil I didn't like.

Here's one Charm.

Well looks like we filled the gap on the SPX.

I'm a proud subscriber......Doc's site is the best, the anals alone are worth the $$, not to mention everything learned from all the stoolies. Many tanks Doc. If you're not subscribing you don't know what you're missing, well worth the $20.

Hi Doc. In the PM update. You said you drew two possibilites. I only saw one??

Meta: One of my daughter's professors (she's a nursing student) said that one should not take silly yum unless needed. A daily dose will make the colon lazy.

That would really ruin my days if it were true. I would also miss some trades I'm sure due to increased painful time in the water closet.

The 2 possibilities referred to the 5-8 day cycle channel. The pink one. There are two sets of tracks. One is flatter, one continues down at the same rate it's been on.

Sold my imaginary S&P futures contract. I would say futures are the best way to play this game. You can use extreme leverage if you are good.

Don't listen to me, I've never done it before.

Someone posted this morning that RIC was best gold stock gainer, percentagewise. Right now ECO is doing even better, percentagewise -- up a whole nickel.

The longer deflation is allowed to "exist" as the dominating force, the more powerful it becomes “psychologically”. The markets are being manipulated to maintain the belief that all is “well”… The longer all is not well the more powerful the examples of manipulation will become which will destroy the psychology and the market implodes

So when is “wellness” going to show up? It would take many years after the system imploded to see wellness again.

There is no New Bull Market period… The “system” has already collapsed but no one can see or wants to see that until it’s on the front page of the paper… How long do you think the FED can stretch this fantasy out? Months at most…


And I don’t think “You can’t tell if you’re in a death plunge until you hit bottom” excuse, will fly.

Wild cornered animal stage is still looming as strong as ever. Be careful

Bob Vila on CNBC powerlunch...make me puke!

QUOTE (Rockhead @ Dec 4 2002, 01:20 PM)

Bob Vila on CNBC powerlunch...make me puke!

What, they're building homes on CNBC now?

OK, thanks Doc. I get it now.

QUOTE (sweefraapp @ Dec 4 2002, 12:18 PM)

Meta: One of my daughter's professors (she's a nursing student) said that one should not take silly yum unless needed. A daily dose will make the colon lazy. That would really ruin my days if it were true. I would also miss some trades I'm sure due to increased painful time in the water closet.

I thought it was you who posted that model tradestation for Doc -- the one that had the computers etc. in the water closet. Thought it was a picture of the tradestation belonging to whoever posted it..... Maybe Doc could place a large order and re-sell them to Stoolies -- after all, there's usually a discount for bulk

To you stoolies who have had such nice things to say about the Anals today, what can Doc say but, Tank you, tank you very much!

PIMCO's Bill Gross says bonds will underperform now because of inflation. He likes inflation-protected treasuries.

Stoolie translation: buy mining stocks.

Yeah, ECO is moving, but when that poor slob gets going it's usually a sign of the kind of "speculative mania" that characterizes the end of a move.

GF--Villa is not building new homes; he is rehabing.

No prob Doc, at $74/yr not ponying up is just being a dart-ass.

When we hit final bottom (2008?) I can only imagine what Crapvision will be showing during the day but one thing for sure they won't be talking about stocks. It won't even look like the Crapvision we know today. In fact it'll be cancelled.

Well, y'all guilted this inveterate lurker into subscribing to the Anals, and helping the Stool out a little.

Had to do it, I got into PruBear fund after the Simple Guy recommended it just the other day. I'm another one of those chicks who likes simple guys.

Doc, been lovin' your site for months now; hope the subscription compensates you a little for the pleasure I've gotten out of it.

Back to lurking. Carry on liebe Stoolchen

QUOTE (sweefraapp @ Dec 4 2002, 01:18 PM)

Meta: One of my daughter's professors (she's a nursing student) said that one should not take silly yum unless needed. A daily dose will make the colon lazy. That would really ruin my days if it were true. I would also miss some trades I'm sure due to increased painful time in the water closet.

I know people who have used it for years. As a fiber it's very healthy for you and will actually make things easier and work better. You just have to drink enough water with it. Used correctly it can fend off colon cancer. IG

hyper, it's not a complete day without at least one post re the pending macroeconomic apocalypse. frighteningly sensible, in the final ANALysis....

Been @ CSFB Tech conference all morning. Summary: boring! Same old same old. No visibility, must be the bottom, turn around straight ahead just haven't seen it yet.

KLAC tried to be upbeat saying things are much stronger and orders are exactly where they want them to be however they refused to update or raise guidance. Good thing everything is looking up otherwise maybe they would cut 50% of staff instead of the 15% cut last month.





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I believe in shorting the market
I believe the market will tank

I subscribe to the anals

Injured: I've used it for years. A nice unexpected side effect is that I'm not cross eyed anymore.

QUOTE (sweefraapp @ Dec 4 2002, 11:18 AM)

Meta: One of my daughter's professors (she's a nursing student) said that one should not take silly yum unless needed. A daily dose will make the colon lazy. That would really ruin my days if it were true. I would also miss some trades I'm sure due to increased painful time in the water closet.

Sweef,

It's like doing colonic pushups....makes the colonic muscle strong. Stimulant laxatives make it lazy. The water closet 'experience' is luxuriant, painless, predictable...and prolongs life

Moreover, I was responsible for changing the labelling on such product, after which my mother named me, btw

Becker (1968) studied African tribes on huge fiber diets; no colon cancer, polyps, ulcers or heart disease. It was the single most important variable in the study.

Back to the game.........................

Max pain i just started trading futures a few months ago after trading etfs and i've had a little better luck with futures .The stop management is automated and you can take a position home overnight and no get screwed by some nasty gap as globex goes around the clock

Yes, and how many other financial websites do you know of where it's perfectly acceptable to to discuss the quality of one's bowel movements?

QUOTE (rog @ Dec 4 2002, 10:35 AM)

Been @ CSFB Tech conference all morning. Summary: boring! Same old same old. No visibility, must be the bottom, turn around straight ahead just haven't seen it yet. KLAC tried to be upbeat saying things are much stronger and orders are exactly where they want them to be however they refused to update or raise guidance. Good thing everything is looking up otherwise maybe they would cut 50% of staff instead of the 15% cut last month. --------------------- I believe in shorting the market I believe the market will tank I subscribe to the anals

Well, I hope CFSB at least served ya a proper lunch... Kinda like eating your meal down at the city morgue, I imagine... Seriously though, there must be some real sore butt fund manglers walking around that little soiree... NYC is it's own island... When those beatup tech CEOs leave town, I'm sure they'll find another illusion on the horizon to pump themselves up again...

It's amazing what one can learn here Doc - you've created something special

Welcome aboard Hellacia. Nice Avatar!

Risk-adjusted BEARX beats the pants off RYAIX.

http://stockcharts.com/webcgi/perf.html?BEARX,RYAIX

less slippage too.

CBOE P/C

Yeah, it's special all right.

QUOTE (Auntie Septic @ Dec 4 2002, 12:49 PM)

"I'm proud that our fund is down 11% YTD." - Ryan Jacob of Jacob asset management. That's a 89% payback. Fabulous Ryan. Hell, I could have gone to the slots in the casino and got a 94% payback! Good Job Ryan, you f!cking theif.

That is why I love casino gambling...................

At least they tell up front the odds are against you and that's it's rigged..................

And at the very least you get a warm gourmet meal and jacuzzi/marble suite on the house for your torment.............

And if you win................well that's nothing but GRAVY......................

Sure beats the NAZCROOK...................

BTH just warned $0.50 vs $0.55

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Once again we see basic, low cost, consumer products not moving during the seasonally strongest period for sales of this frilly stuff. More signs the consumer is tapped and looking to stretch everuy dollar. LOB

QUOTE (sweefraapp @ Dec 4 2002, 01:35 PM)

Injured: I've used it for years. A nice unexpected side effect is that I'm not cross eyed anymore.

Suddenly seized by huge laughter I convulsed and involuntarily clicked my mouse. Oh well, I can always reshort that one....